I love the speed but...you have to have solid form to handle it. I shoot 306 fps and a 367 grain Gold Tip XT 55/75 very accurately for deer hunting (3" groups at 30 yds). I had planned to shoot heavier, but now I find no compelling reason to do so, considering the accuracy. Before you say it, my bow is whisper quiet, so there' s no issue there, either.

In my view, there is no such thing as a ' forgiving' setup if your form is wrong. If your off, you miss. Speed does one thing very well... It forces us to work out flaws and inconsistencies in our shooting form and makes us better archers. That is worth it to me.

Now for those of you with speed bows (or any bow) that don' t practice enough... Please don' t go hunting... Save the deer for someone who cares...

Yea, that may be true. Not trying to start a huge debate, but lets also look at the physical aspects of possible injuries that can happen with those radical high speed cams. I used to believe that I was invincible when it came to archery until I started to develop tendonitis in my shoulder which I can basically attribute to a lot of shooting throughout the years with radical cams. Just a caution to ya. Take it for what its worth. Since I have developed it, I am only able to shoot about 20 arrows every other day. And when I do shoot, I have to take anti-inflamatories. I also have to ice the shoulder everyday. Even when I don' t shoot.

Looking back, I wished that I would have been smarter and stuck with other types of bows. So, if you want to bring the longevity of shooting archery over a lifetime, then I would suggest that people at least consider alternatives to radical high speed cams.

Bob, I regularly shot with a guy 15 years ago that had taken a block of mesquite wood and carved a thumbhole overdraw riser for his Black Widow limbs. He shot the sap out of that thing, too!

You know I agree with you on the high intensity cams and injuries. Seen way too many threads over the past few years about guys getting their shoulders operated on.

I totally agree with you Arthur. Is seems like the ratio of archers and shoulders problems is rather high.

Seems like I may go in a full circle with archery during my lifetime. My main bows went a recurves, to eccentric wheels, to double cams , to one cams, back to a eccentric, and more then likely back to only my longbow. But, I can honestly say that right now, my longbow is fine for me to return to. Just as long as I don' t get taken out of archery all together, I don' t care what I shoot. Being taken out of archery all together is what I worry about. I want to shoot arhery for a long time to come. Luckily, my problem was caught early, and with some anoying steps, can be controled.

Bob,

Can' t argue at all with your take on radical cams and injuries. It sure is possible. I' m quiet capable of shooting 80 lbs or more comfortably. In fact, until this year I did. I backed off to 70 lbs this year and it is a breeze for me to pull, not to mention faster to boot. I guess I don' t consider the ' cam' I' m shooting very ' radical' , although some might. It has, in my opinion at least, a fairly smooth draw curve, way smoother ans easier than my old PSE.

I have a shoulder injury as well (from baseball, not archery), so I find the decrease in peak draw weight very comfortable now. Good hunting to you and I hope you have many years of archery left in those shoulders.

Thanks formula1.