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#11
PA, my understanding was that all of the upper end 02 models came with WC strings. They didn' t start using the SM until 03. I' m sure bowtech shooter will be here soon to help clarify this one.
#12
String thing is somewhat complicated...
For bows that had little or no change from last year' s models (Mighty Mite, Tech-29) Bowtech used up what Winners Choice strings they had left. Then they started putting on " o2" which are Stone Mountain' s design.
The new for 2003 models came with Stone Mountain from the get-go (VFT, dual cams, etc).
The difference in the feel of the draw force curve from the 2003 I-cam (on the ExVFT) and the 2002 is pretty noticeable: they smoothed out the back end. the 2002 I-cam is not bad at all on the 2002 Patriot I have, but the same cam was pretty stout on the 2002 MM ( I suspect because of limb angles/pre-load).
The 2003 Patriot singlecam model has it' s own cam this year that is apparently even smoother than the 2003 standard I-cam.
The C.5 bows are funny..I think it depends on cam size and where the module is set. I shot a RazorTec & an Ultra-tec up at our shop a couple of months ago w/ their largest respective C.5 cam and they were very stout compared to my CyberTec draw length for draw length and poundage for poundage. Yet others I' ve drawn are like butter (my Cyber, and an Ultra 3000). We have some of the new Reflex models, but I' ve had no real desire to shoot them more than a couple of shots.
For bows that had little or no change from last year' s models (Mighty Mite, Tech-29) Bowtech used up what Winners Choice strings they had left. Then they started putting on " o2" which are Stone Mountain' s design.
The new for 2003 models came with Stone Mountain from the get-go (VFT, dual cams, etc).
The difference in the feel of the draw force curve from the 2003 I-cam (on the ExVFT) and the 2002 is pretty noticeable: they smoothed out the back end. the 2002 I-cam is not bad at all on the 2002 Patriot I have, but the same cam was pretty stout on the 2002 MM ( I suspect because of limb angles/pre-load).
The 2003 Patriot singlecam model has it' s own cam this year that is apparently even smoother than the 2003 standard I-cam.
The C.5 bows are funny..I think it depends on cam size and where the module is set. I shot a RazorTec & an Ultra-tec up at our shop a couple of months ago w/ their largest respective C.5 cam and they were very stout compared to my CyberTec draw length for draw length and poundage for poundage. Yet others I' ve drawn are like butter (my Cyber, and an Ultra 3000). We have some of the new Reflex models, but I' ve had no real desire to shoot them more than a couple of shots.
#14
Well that explains why some would say I' m being needlessly whiney about my bows draw whan compared to the same cam on the patriot they own.
Not comparing apples to apples I guess. My luck!!
Not comparing apples to apples I guess. My luck!!
#15
Frank,
Even compared to the RazorTec, which we both shot, this bow seems smoother. The RazorTec we shot was set at 60#, and his EX-VFT is at 63#. I am not sure why, but it is just smooth.
I keep thinking, hmmmm, lets see, I could get a EX-VFT, set it at 70# with a 30" draw and get some great speeds
DANG IT, once you buy one BowTech, you want them all

Well, I gotta get going, my friend will be here in a little while, and then we are gonna see how many arrows we can bust at 40 yards
Even compared to the RazorTec, which we both shot, this bow seems smoother. The RazorTec we shot was set at 60#, and his EX-VFT is at 63#. I am not sure why, but it is just smooth.
I keep thinking, hmmmm, lets see, I could get a EX-VFT, set it at 70# with a 30" draw and get some great speeds

DANG IT, once you buy one BowTech, you want them all


Well, I gotta get going, my friend will be here in a little while, and then we are gonna see how many arrows we can bust at 40 yards

#16
BM,
You might actually notice an increase in accuracy with the EX VFT over your Mighty Mite simply because of the mass weight distribution of the bow with the long riser/parallel limb design. I found this to be the case with the Patriot SC in comparison to the Mighty Mite I briefly owned and several other 33 inch axle to axle length bows with more of the typical riser/limb designs.
You might actually notice an increase in accuracy with the EX VFT over your Mighty Mite simply because of the mass weight distribution of the bow with the long riser/parallel limb design. I found this to be the case with the Patriot SC in comparison to the Mighty Mite I briefly owned and several other 33 inch axle to axle length bows with more of the typical riser/limb designs.
#17
Frank,
I would probablly be more accurate, but, the MightyMite is shooting great for me. I am drilling them in there at 45 yards (farthest I have shot it yet) Actually, a few days ago, I split the back end of an arrow at 45 yards with another arrow, Not a robinhood, but, as close as you can get. I just smacked the two arrows together, and one split from the nock down about an inch.
I have been thinking about getting into some local 3-D shoots, getting a bow that I could use for those, and also as a good back up hunting bow.
I have shot the EX-VFT and the Patriot SC, and out of those two, I would probablly go with the EX-VFT, but, I would like to take a look at the Pro-38. I havn' t got to mess around with one of them yet.
Who knows, maybe in a few months, I will have BowTech number 2 setting beside the MightyMite
As for now though, I prefer the short a.t.a. length. One stand that I plan on hunting this year is pretty cramped. It is in an old white oak with lots of low hanging branches, where a smaller bow will be a benefit. Plus, all shots from this stand would be less than 30 yards, with a majority of them at 20 yards. At these distances, the MightyMite is tearing up vanes.
O yeah, yesterday I got a dozen PSE arrows, I have 8 now that are in perfect condition. The other 4 already need new vanes.
I would probablly be more accurate, but, the MightyMite is shooting great for me. I am drilling them in there at 45 yards (farthest I have shot it yet) Actually, a few days ago, I split the back end of an arrow at 45 yards with another arrow, Not a robinhood, but, as close as you can get. I just smacked the two arrows together, and one split from the nock down about an inch.
I have been thinking about getting into some local 3-D shoots, getting a bow that I could use for those, and also as a good back up hunting bow.
I have shot the EX-VFT and the Patriot SC, and out of those two, I would probablly go with the EX-VFT, but, I would like to take a look at the Pro-38. I havn' t got to mess around with one of them yet.
Who knows, maybe in a few months, I will have BowTech number 2 setting beside the MightyMite

As for now though, I prefer the short a.t.a. length. One stand that I plan on hunting this year is pretty cramped. It is in an old white oak with lots of low hanging branches, where a smaller bow will be a benefit. Plus, all shots from this stand would be less than 30 yards, with a majority of them at 20 yards. At these distances, the MightyMite is tearing up vanes.
O yeah, yesterday I got a dozen PSE arrows, I have 8 now that are in perfect condition. The other 4 already need new vanes.
#19
BM,
Tell your friend that BowTech is like one of those chain letters..........its bad luck now if he doesn' t pass it on and breaks the chain.

Glad you are enjoying that bow so much........I' d feel pretty bad if you got one on my recommendation and hated it![
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I started shooting my hunting bow more seriously this weekend getting ready for the season. It might be mostly hunting bow over 3D from here out.
STILL haven' t settled on an arrow combo yet tho. I got a reality check this season tho with the first " twinge" in my draw shoulder. That has me a little worried as I haven' t felt anything like that before.........I can draw 100+# bows with little difficulty but I also know I want to bowhunt for many years to come, so I' ve backed the Dually Patriot off to about 62# now and am searching for a good match of arrow........something in the 360-370 range. Once I iron that out my mind will be more at ease.
It is nice to have a 30" draw and a hunting bow with IBO speeds in the 330' s.......makes that drop to 62# a whole lot less " painful" .
Hope you nail one of those Camtrakker bucks of yours with that MM, they sure are some nice ones.
Tell your friend that BowTech is like one of those chain letters..........its bad luck now if he doesn' t pass it on and breaks the chain.


Glad you are enjoying that bow so much........I' d feel pretty bad if you got one on my recommendation and hated it![
]I started shooting my hunting bow more seriously this weekend getting ready for the season. It might be mostly hunting bow over 3D from here out.
STILL haven' t settled on an arrow combo yet tho. I got a reality check this season tho with the first " twinge" in my draw shoulder. That has me a little worried as I haven' t felt anything like that before.........I can draw 100+# bows with little difficulty but I also know I want to bowhunt for many years to come, so I' ve backed the Dually Patriot off to about 62# now and am searching for a good match of arrow........something in the 360-370 range. Once I iron that out my mind will be more at ease.
It is nice to have a 30" draw and a hunting bow with IBO speeds in the 330' s.......makes that drop to 62# a whole lot less " painful" .

Hope you nail one of those Camtrakker bucks of yours with that MM, they sure are some nice ones.
#20
Aussie,
Atleast I havn' t been robinhooding these left and right. I am just tearing the vanes up, and they can be re-fletched

This BowTech is gonna be expensive, just to keep good arrows

This thing still amazes me, it is one of the smallest bows on the market, and yet, it is still very accurate, forgiving, and fun to shoot.
Matt/Pa,
Yeah, you better keep that Pat dually turned down.
Don' t need you messing that shoulder up. That thing is a BEAST!!!!!! I had heard people talk about how harsh they are, but, I guess I underestimated. Hopefully, BowTech can touch up that bow, and smooth out the draw force curve for next year.
Now, as far as the chain letter goes, what if it comes back to me
I am really really thinking about getting another BowTech when the new line-up comes out. I will have to see what changes, but, the Pro38 or EX-VFT are looking mighty tempting.
Heck, the Pro40 wheely is looking very very tempting for a good back up hunting bow and to get into some local 3-D shooting.
OOOOOOOOO, so many BowTechs, and not enough money
O yeah, also, the pics of the deer I have been posting are still shots taken from the footage I got of them with my camcorder. I wish that I could put on video clips, but, I am not sure how to do that yet.
Atleast I havn' t been robinhooding these left and right. I am just tearing the vanes up, and they can be re-fletched


This BowTech is gonna be expensive, just to keep good arrows


This thing still amazes me, it is one of the smallest bows on the market, and yet, it is still very accurate, forgiving, and fun to shoot.
Matt/Pa,
Yeah, you better keep that Pat dually turned down.
Don' t need you messing that shoulder up. That thing is a BEAST!!!!!! I had heard people talk about how harsh they are, but, I guess I underestimated. Hopefully, BowTech can touch up that bow, and smooth out the draw force curve for next year. Now, as far as the chain letter goes, what if it comes back to me
I am really really thinking about getting another BowTech when the new line-up comes out. I will have to see what changes, but, the Pro38 or EX-VFT are looking mighty tempting.
Heck, the Pro40 wheely is looking very very tempting for a good back up hunting bow and to get into some local 3-D shooting. OOOOOOOOO, so many BowTechs, and not enough money

O yeah, also, the pics of the deer I have been posting are still shots taken from the footage I got of them with my camcorder. I wish that I could put on video clips, but, I am not sure how to do that yet.


