To thundermug-no I fall asleep in the tree lounge its the most comfortable stand out there.Thats why they call it a tree lounge.Oh yea u can buy longer chains on to go on the api to go around any big size tree-lets see summit do that.Dont get me wrong I love my summits If I have a long walk to my tree or if Im changing trees that evening the summits comming with me.Why narrow your chose to just one stand.for fast.light weight.up against the tree go summit.For all day hunthing go API or Tree lounge.Try trading with your hunting buddies and try them all.If the tree I want to hunt out of is to small i`ll put the summit on it.If its to big for the summit i`ll put the api on it.