Exactly. The pro crossbow guys always try to dump that "you're selfish and don't want children to be able to hunt" or "you don't want to share the woods" nonsense on you which is ridiculous and not true. I welcome all to bow season. Just bring a bow.

If the point was really to get more people out there in the woods then hell lets just cut loose with whatever you got from day one. Gun, crossbow, compound, recurve, handgun, etc, etc. Wouldn't that get more people out there than just crossbows? Of course it would. So if you are taking the let's get more people out there line then at least advocate that and don't look like a hypocrite.

But of course they don't want that. First, because they don't really give a rats @$$ about how many people hunt. And secondly, because people already have guns and if you let them use them in archery season then they wouldn't have to "BUY" anything. LOL! And that brings us back to the real reason for the massive crossbow push across America. Back room bribes to game commisions to open the pathway to sell crossbows to gun hunters. That is all this was about. End of list.

The particularly nauseating line is that this was done for and will be of great benefit for "The Children." That is such a vile and slimey lie that it really should be criminal to spew it onto a public forum where someone might step in it. Crossbow hunting or bow hunting here in Alabama has to be done from treestands for the most part. And not some 12 foot buddy ladder stand either. About 25 feet off the ground is the minimum. I know of no parent that lets their 8 year old kid go 25 feet up a tree with a lethal weapon. Especially one like a crossbow that could literally take their finger off if they got it in front of the string. Any kid old enough to go solo 25 to 30 foot up a tree with a crossbow is old enough to shoot a bow. So lets put that canard to rest right here. That this was in any way done for children is utter bull####!!

If it was done for children then why didn't they just legalize crossbows for children then. LOL!!! I'll tell you why. Cause they wouldn't have sold any, that's why. LOL!!!

Common sense is at a all time low when it comes to arrow guns.

You may be breaking forum rules actually bring up valid points.

Just keep saying, "its for the kids", and you can get any point pushed.

I don't remember anyone saying that it was "just for the children" but kids are part of the big picture.

You don't have a leg to stand on in this argument. Every argument you have attempted to make has been easily shot right out of the sky. Primitive weapons shot down. Crossbows not being archery equipment shot down. Their all slob hunters that are going to woulnd and kill all the deer completely unfounded as state after state can prove otherwise. Crossbows are just like guns and lets just all have one long hunting season, just absurd. Nothing that either of you has brought to the argument has any foundation.

This is nothing more than history repeating itself.
The traditional muzzle loader guys had the same gripe about inlines.
The traditional bow guys had the same arguments about compounds when they showed up to the hunting scene.
Both groups had zero valid points as time has showed and neither of you have a valid point about crossbows now. Just the same ole tired argument.

The state rules. The needed deer harvest rules. The number of available licensed hunters in the state rules. All states are different and can't be the same.

Some states approved inline muzzleloaders and crossbows because of smaller numbers of hunters in that state, and a large harvest of deer needed.

It's not by magic that states with large numbers of hunters have a short firearms season and a shorter archery season. Some states allowed one, or two deer. Some allowed the harvesting of five and more deer in one hunting season.

Again the weapons allowed for hunting depend on the state, the number of deer that need harvesting, and the number of hunters that will spend the time hunting.

When I was young, the state where I hunted, it was one buck per season. One and you were done. For that reason, I never retook up the bow that I shot as a young teen. Couldn't bear to miss the special gun season opener. Nothing against bows at the time. That was just how the hunting season was. Only so many deer to go around for so many hunters.

I live in WV but work in MD. The place I work has about 20 guys that hunt, 2 of which bow hunt. In the last month 10 of the guys that have never picked up a bow all bought Xbows.

After work I have seen some of them shooting them out back. Personally I have never shot a Xbow but got to shoot a Parker Tornado the other day. Open handed my 1st 3 shots were a 3" group at 40 yards. How anyone can say hunting with a Xbow is no easier then hunting with a normal bow is just plain rediculous. I've never even picked up an Xbow prior to this and shot it just fine. Not braggind just saying anyone who can shoot a scoped gun half decent will be fine shooting an Xbow.


I'm not even saying Xbows shouldn't be used but cannot believe someone would post its gives you no real advantage over a normal bow. 1st of all you have optics to help pick out/place a shot much better then with just pins. 2nd theres no muscle memory, movement(or as much), strain of holding back for awhile to worry about. Just point and shoot.

Love em or hate em the legalization of the bows is going to change the amount of folks that are in the woods. The more folks in the field means the bigger chance of dopes being out there. Most of the guys here are of the mind set that it prob takes 10 minutes to site in a Xbow and you are ready to go hunt out to 50/60 yards.

I can guarantee you that due to the new law at least 4 more idiots will be out in the MD woods this year cause I talk to them here at work every day.

Wow, thats comical. Because nothing you have said has a leg to stand on. I have shot it all down and made you look like a fool. But I seriously doubt you could ever see it.

Todd brought up valid points. Of course you will never even attempt to discuss them. I kinda can't blame you. You would lose.

A person is a total idiot if he doesn't see the simularities between a modern X-bow and a rifle. I mean you would have to have a severe low IQ to miss it. I don't know if someone could have an intelligent conversation with someone that dumb.

I couldn't figure out where all this push to have crossbows legal in MD came from. I made complaints, I called the DNR, finally one guy said, its mostly from dealers and rifle hunters. Oh yea, thats right, you are a dealer, are you not? Wow, big surprise.

Nothing you have said has any foundation, but you keep on spewing the crap.

Bottom line is if archery season has nothing to do with tradition, nothing to do with love of archery, and its inherient difficulty and skill it takes. Then a logic intelligent person has only to conclude its about deer management, and that alone, and it should be weapon of choice deer season. Now there is some common sense for you.

I have discussed every single point he has brought up and none of them are valid. If you care to discuss them again please feel free to list them again and I will shoot them down yet again.

Bottom line is if archery season has nothing to do with tradition, nothing to do with love of archery, and its inherient difficulty and skill it takes. Then a logic intelligent person has only to conclude its about deer management, and that alone, and it should be weapon of choice deer season. Now there is some common sense for you.

Why would it be ok for modern x-bows to be ok in archery season but not an open season for weapon of choice?

And I hate to inform you, but you have shot down nothing but make yourself look like a biased dealer.

Who's tradition are you talking about? Yours or the rest of the countries?

They already are. During general gun and most ML seasons youcan use any bow that you wish. Crossbow or otherwise.

You make a big assumption. list his so called valid points again. I have gone over them more than once already. BTW, I never reccomend a crossbow over a compound bow to my customers if they ask my opinion. Remember what they say about the word assume.

Thank you. Thats what I thought. You couldn't discuss one point. But I am not surprised.