Oh, on that first deer, I could outline where I would shoot it. The shoulderblade isn't that big, and there is alot of vital area there, that is easy to pick out. That would be a clean, 2 lung shot, perhaps even heart shot. That space between the legs, thats where I would put it . About 3" up and to the right of the dark tuffed on the bottom of his chest you can see where the hide gets a little lighter in line with the shoulder blade following the contour of his neck on the left side. Good shooting.
Dylan

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Well, it depends. If these bucks are on my land, and it's the last day of the season, then yes/yes/no/no. There's always next year.

But, honestly, if I'm on a $3000-$4000 outfitted hunt, and it's the last day of the hunt, it'd be more like yes/yes/yes/yes.

compound

Edited by - masterbuck on 01/28/2002 03:25:53

not likley unless he turned
yes
no
no

Compound

Compound
no
yes
no
no

55#recurve - Your wish is my command -


Thats the skeleton - I submit that in pic #1, with that front right leg turned back a bit, you are looking at a significant ammount of bone there IF your shot was off to the right of the hear/lung area thats exposed. Also, if your shot was to the left a bit, you'd be hitting liver, MAYBE, and guts. I submit both shots would be bad - lethal I am sure, but bad because your arrow hitting a lot of bone wouldn't be pass through in most cases and the other would not be a quick clean kill - another long tracking job most cannot handle.



Thats another broadside view of the organs.

With a compound, you become more apt to take number A shot, or with a crossbow. With a recurve or longbow, I don't think 1 out of 100 would - they would wait.

Edited by - stealthycat on 01/28/2002 06:48:36

Let me add this too

" Where to Aim - Quartering Toward

Bow: This is one of the poorest bow shots and should not be taken. Picking a spot behind the shoulder will result in the arrow barely missing the vital organs and angling back into the stomach and intes tines. Heavy shoulder bones shield the majority of the vital organs from penetration by arrow. An error of only on inch or two will result in a miss or a non-fatal hit in the shoulder. Another disadvantage of this angle is the possibility that the animal will sec the hunter drawing his bow. Wait for the animal to pass by and take a broadside or quartering-away shot.

Gun: The quartering-toward angle is fine for a firearm. Aim at the head, neck or front of the shoulder for an effective hit. A light bullet may deflect off the shoulder bones of large big game such as elk, moose or large bears. Be certain you use a firearm and ammunition adequate for the game you hunt and type of shot you select.

Where to Aim - Head-On Shots"


Thats from NBEF - you'd think they know SOMETHING about deer and shot placement ...

http://www.nbef.org/deer_java.html

We weren't given the option if the animal would see us or not, With a compound, you can hold at full draw for a very long time, advantages of let off. I take any of those buck's with a compound, it would have to be a matter of how practiced I am or not if I would take the shot.
If I practice diligently, I am quite confident and most capable of making a 20 yard shot on any of those buck's, resulting in a clean kill. If It came down to tracking, I have tracked for many hours before, when my dad made a bad rifle shot, so it's something I am quite used to and I would not give up on finding the deer. If this is a measure of ethics, Everyone of those shots is quite ethical. On the third picture, it's a matter of 2 very large hams, you are looking at about 4" of ribcage I would say. You can take the shot for the ribs, and very easily take out one or both lungs, maybe even a heart shot. I don't use mechanical broadheads mind you so I don't think these angles are all that bad.
good shooting.
Dylan

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Edited by - 55#recurve on 01/28/2002 17:50:39

1.Yes-been there , done that. Deer went 30yds , blood everywhere.
2.Deffinately
3.NO
4.No

"Nocked,cocked & ready to rock"

I would like to post some pictures, could someone email me and I will send you the pics and you can post them, because I don't know how to. Thanks.
Dylan

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20 feet up at 20 yards.... no, yes, yes and no.

Edited by - shed1 on 01/29/2002 13:35:18