I recently bought the lone wolf sit and climb. I already owned their alpha hang on stand and love it. But I wanted to upgrade my climbing stand (loggy bayou) so I went with lone wolf after reading reviews plus my experience with the hang on. Well, I'm not happy with it so far. It seems to be more trouble then it's worth and I don't have the same level of stability like I do with the alpha hang on stand. I just can't seem to get the stand stable and have trouble keeping the seat from falling. The one thing I liked and miss about the loggy bayou was once you got to your stand height you would pull up the seat which locked in place and then you would rachet it to the tree and everything was rock solid. So I don't get it, what am I doing wrong? Everyone that has one loves them. Please explain what I'm missing.

Seems to me that everyone hates them when they get them but learn to love them.

At times, I wonder if people defend them because of their purchase and feel they need to. I don't get it. I've tried them, don't like them and feel there is better for the price. If weights an issue, there is just as light for better IMO.

I have an Ol'man. I love it. I've had it for 10 years now at least. I loved it from day 1, never had an issue with it. Yes it's heavier than the LW however, they make an aluminum version that is lighter than the LW and that $ for $ I feel it kicks LW's arse in every area.