Why was he disappointed with the Rage heads.....he never stated what issue or why he was not happy with them. Was it arrow flight, pass through issues, blades flying open?

im goin to the rage 2 blade and i hate all custemer service ppl

I don't understand why everyone is so infatuated with pass throughs, however, i'd say shot placement/angle are at fault, what kind of penetration were you getting, a lot of times if an arrow blows through bone on the way in and hits bone on the way out, it will stop dead. not knowing where he hit these deer , im going to guess and say he was aiming for heart instead of lungs. the lung shot is by far the best for a complete pass through

You get much more blood with an exit wound, and if you get a complete passthrough the arrow can tell you where the animal was shot (stomach/lungs). I would much rather know that i hit the animal too far back before tracking and possibly pushing a gut shot deer. I'm not saying that i have ever gut shot a deer but ____ happens and i would like to know that i am prepared for when it does.

Thats not the bh's fault Shoot a smaller head if you dont have the ke/momentum to make a HUGE/RADICAL head pass through.

I could care less if anyone uses rages. My experiences with them, are just that... Mine... BUT... Its a bit different when their is an obvious operator fault.

Not trying to point fingers here or anything like that. And like GMMAT has said before, I do agree that their marketing scheme causes many many people with inadequate ke/momentum to choose these radical heads over a more suitable setup for their bows. But... They are in the business of making money, and they are doing just that so I cant blame them too much

Either find more KE, or shoot a smaller head if you want a pass-thru(anyone, not just you dstubb, just using you as an example).

Derek

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Umm.... that's what i am doing now. I used the Rages the first year that they came out, before most people including myself were aware of these issues. My first deer with the Rage was a complete passthrough, the second was not, then after that i was curious if i had maybe hit the shoulder bone, so the third and fourth were both experiments to determine how they worked out of my bow.

Great! Like I said, didnt mean any harm although it may have sounded that way. I think too many people are in the same boat as you were though b/c of ignorance of the products physical principles, and their marketing techniques.

I agree with many "a dead deer is a dead deer". That is true, but if there is no blood to follow and your deer went 60yards through a thicket, its not gonna be easy finding it.

Shot placement is the key.

More fussing over the Rage. I have not shot them and I might love them but happened to be in BPS a couple of days ago and in an aisle FILLED with dozens and dozens of differing brands of BH's everyone was lined up for the Rages in their particularly pretty packages.

Why?? Even if they are the best thing since sliced bread these for the most part "Rookies" at BPS are buying them because of many glossy pages of advertisements.

As far as customer service they just don't need to provide any. If they lose a customer there are five more just waiting to take their place.



Just find ANY BH out there that your bow likes to shoot and you will be all set. It's not the BH but rather where you put it.

I shoot them and love them but they are not for everyone you need the energy and shot placement to make them work I am sick of everyone bad mouthing a perfectly good product because they don't have the right setup or make bad shots. Just realize that sometimes it can be your fault