overlook the fact of killing deer?
12-12-2008, 01:13 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West Tennessee
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RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
ORIGINAL: bcvd45
i do live in Florissant. But I go to school in Rolla. I am actually wrapping up an internship in Springfield and plan on having a summer job outside Columbia....I get around the state a lot.....44 is my highway. If by south east you mean the Poplar Bluff area....I know some people around there too.
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
Mechanical Engineering student
Rolla Rural Fire Dept.
Rolla? Crap, dude, you live in a deer hunting paradise! Also, that puts you more like six hours from me. I thought you lived in Florissant.
Mechanical Engineering student
Rolla Rural Fire Dept.
Rolla? Crap, dude, you live in a deer hunting paradise! Also, that puts you more like six hours from me. I thought you lived in Florissant.
12-12-2008, 01:30 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
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RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
ORIGINAL: NY Bowhunter
The spiker thread got me thinking. Do you evertake for grantedthe fact that you kill deer? Or you had the ability to kill deer if you chose and passed? I didn't realize the number of people that go a season (or seasons) without killing anything. I guess I just go into a season knowing I'll kill the number of deer I want for meat in the freezer. Hell there are stretches in my season where I could kill A DEER of some kind 90% of the time I go out. Maybe I've taken that fact for granted. I get so wrapped up on particular bucks or filling that buck tag. I get so overwhelmed with the strategy, details and the mental side of hunting that to be honest the thought of just being able to kill a deer doesn't even enter my brain. It's a non issue for me. Interesting.
I'm not sure how this is coming across. Let me just say that in no way shape or form am I proclaiming to be the greatest hunter (or even top 10 [8D]) on the face of the Earth. In fact I think I really suck lol. It just dawned on me that there are a lot of people that don't get the opportunity to take a deer. I know I'm getting my 3 deer (or more if I chose) a season. There really isn't a question about that .... ever.
The spiker thread got me thinking. Do you evertake for grantedthe fact that you kill deer? Or you had the ability to kill deer if you chose and passed? I didn't realize the number of people that go a season (or seasons) without killing anything. I guess I just go into a season knowing I'll kill the number of deer I want for meat in the freezer. Hell there are stretches in my season where I could kill A DEER of some kind 90% of the time I go out. Maybe I've taken that fact for granted. I get so wrapped up on particular bucks or filling that buck tag. I get so overwhelmed with the strategy, details and the mental side of hunting that to be honest the thought of just being able to kill a deer doesn't even enter my brain. It's a non issue for me. Interesting.
I'm not sure how this is coming across. Let me just say that in no way shape or form am I proclaiming to be the greatest hunter (or even top 10 [8D]) on the face of the Earth. In fact I think I really suck lol. It just dawned on me that there are a lot of people that don't get the opportunity to take a deer. I know I'm getting my 3 deer (or more if I chose) a season. There really isn't a question about that .... ever.
Do I take for granted that I'm actually killing an animal?
Or that I good enough to do it?
I'll try to answer. If this is a respect deer question, It's a deer. I kill it and eat it. I try to make a clean kill and won't torture it. Funerals are pretty expensive so I just toss the carcass on my bone pile out back.
If the question is about my ability to kill one:
I used to hunt an area that offered a lot of shots. I never had a chance to shoot a big buck. I am now hunting an area where shot opertunity is very low. I saw 1 doe this whole season. My chance of shooting a bigger one is much better in this area. I hunt Minn. with rifle. Wis with rifle and bow so somewhere along the way I always seem to get some deer meat. Wis bow kill success is about 15-18%. So if I get one that puts me in the top 15-18%
12-12-2008, 01:42 PM
#14
Boone & Crockett
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RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
I'm not sure what your trying to say?
Do I take for granted that I'm actually killing an animal?
Or that I good enough to do it?
Do I take for granted that I'm actually killing an animal?
Or that I good enough to do it?
12-12-2008, 01:49 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West Tennessee
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RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
I'm not sure what your trying to say?
Do I take for granted that I'm actually killing an animal?
Or that I good enough to do it?
I'll try to answer. If this is a respect deer question, It's a deer. I kill it and eat it. I try to make a clean kill and won't torture it. Funerals are pretty expensive so I just toss the carcass on my bone pile out back.
If the question is about my ability to kill one:
I used to hunt an area that offered a lot of shots. I never had a chance to shoot a big buck. I am now hunting an area where shot opertunity is very low. I saw 1 doe this whole season. My chance of shooting a bigger one is much better in this area. I hunt Minn. with rifle. Wis with rifle and bow so somewhere along the way I always seem to get some deer meat. Wis bow kill success is about 15-18%. So if I get one that puts me in the top 15-18%
ORIGINAL: NY Bowhunter
The spiker thread got me thinking. Do you evertake for grantedthe fact that you kill deer? Or you had the ability to kill deer if you chose and passed? I didn't realize the number of people that go a season (or seasons) without killing anything. I guess I just go into a season knowing I'll kill the number of deer I want for meat in the freezer. Hell there are stretches in my season where I could kill A DEER of some kind 90% of the time I go out. Maybe I've taken that fact for granted. I get so wrapped up on particular bucks or filling that buck tag. I get so overwhelmed with the strategy, details and the mental side of hunting that to be honest the thought of just being able to kill a deer doesn't even enter my brain. It's a non issue for me. Interesting.
I'm not sure how this is coming across. Let me just say that in no way shape or form am I proclaiming to be the greatest hunter (or even top 10 [8D]) on the face of the Earth. In fact I think I really suck lol. It just dawned on me that there are a lot of people that don't get the opportunity to take a deer. I know I'm getting my 3 deer (or more if I chose) a season. There really isn't a question about that .... ever.
The spiker thread got me thinking. Do you evertake for grantedthe fact that you kill deer? Or you had the ability to kill deer if you chose and passed? I didn't realize the number of people that go a season (or seasons) without killing anything. I guess I just go into a season knowing I'll kill the number of deer I want for meat in the freezer. Hell there are stretches in my season where I could kill A DEER of some kind 90% of the time I go out. Maybe I've taken that fact for granted. I get so wrapped up on particular bucks or filling that buck tag. I get so overwhelmed with the strategy, details and the mental side of hunting that to be honest the thought of just being able to kill a deer doesn't even enter my brain. It's a non issue for me. Interesting.
I'm not sure how this is coming across. Let me just say that in no way shape or form am I proclaiming to be the greatest hunter (or even top 10 [8D]) on the face of the Earth. In fact I think I really suck lol. It just dawned on me that there are a lot of people that don't get the opportunity to take a deer. I know I'm getting my 3 deer (or more if I chose) a season. There really isn't a question about that .... ever.
Do I take for granted that I'm actually killing an animal?
Or that I good enough to do it?
I'll try to answer. If this is a respect deer question, It's a deer. I kill it and eat it. I try to make a clean kill and won't torture it. Funerals are pretty expensive so I just toss the carcass on my bone pile out back.
If the question is about my ability to kill one:
I used to hunt an area that offered a lot of shots. I never had a chance to shoot a big buck. I am now hunting an area where shot opertunity is very low. I saw 1 doe this whole season. My chance of shooting a bigger one is much better in this area. I hunt Minn. with rifle. Wis with rifle and bow so somewhere along the way I always seem to get some deer meat. Wis bow kill success is about 15-18%. So if I get one that puts me in the top 15-18%
I think I understand the question, and I can see how that could happen. A few years ago, my kills were so few and far between that I'd have been ecstatic with any deer. Now, with 5 last year and 6 so far this year, I can see that if this trend continues, I might getoverconfident and cocky and look at the first deer of the year as expected rather than an achievement. I hope that never happens to me.
12-12-2008, 01:51 PM
#16
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chatsworth IL USA
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RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
I am now hunting an area where shot opertunity is very low. I saw 1 doe this whole season. My chance of shooting a bigger one is much better in this area.
As for me...well I have had a dry few years...when it comes to actually putting meat in the freezer. But during the last few years I changed my style from meat in the freezer to quality deer. I don't want to say trophy hunter, because I believe I am far from that. In my dry years I passed on numerous mature does to see what was (or wasn't) tailing them. I would consider my season of 07 to almost as successful as this year. The odd part is that I killed a nice buck this year and a doe. Last year all I had was a few close encounters with monsters and a few near misses on does.
I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder!!
12-12-2008, 01:54 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Castile N.Y.
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RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
ORIGINAL: shed33
Growing up ina 1 tag deer state that just recently in the last decaded moved to two tags for bucks (thats means buying a second for non-resident prices) anyway growing up that way and knowing nothing different taught me to be picky once I got to an age that shooting the first deer I saw wasnt as much fun. So I've passed on critters my whole life, bucks, bulls, bears etc... especially in the early season. Sometimes I end up taking the same critter later once the season dwindles. I have never taken for granted the encounters though, as a matter of fact I find a lot of satisfaction in watching animals in bow range that never know I am there.
Growing up ina 1 tag deer state that just recently in the last decaded moved to two tags for bucks (thats means buying a second for non-resident prices) anyway growing up that way and knowing nothing different taught me to be picky once I got to an age that shooting the first deer I saw wasnt as much fun. So I've passed on critters my whole life, bucks, bulls, bears etc... especially in the early season. Sometimes I end up taking the same critter later once the season dwindles. I have never taken for granted the encounters though, as a matter of fact I find a lot of satisfaction in watching animals in bow range that never know I am there.
But with that said, I too take the killing for granted. Ive shot four deer per yearinthe last two years, and its starting to come pretty easy. Next year I will be greatly upping my standards, only because the does come pretty easy.
12-12-2008, 02:00 PM
#19
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RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
ORIGINAL: IL_BOW_MAN
I am not sure I understand how you chances of shooting a bigger one are better when you don't see any deer. I would think if you had a larger doe population in your area, the chances of a buck cruising for a doe is a lot better.
As for me...well I have had a dry few years...when it comes to actually putting meat in the freezer. But during the last few years I changed my style from meat in the freezer to quality deer. I don't want to say trophy hunter, because I believe I am far from that. In my dry years I passed on numerous mature does to see what was (or wasn't) tailing them. I would consider my season of 07 to almost as successful as this year. The odd part is that I killed a nice buck this year and a doe. Last year all I had was a few close encounters with monsters and a few near misses on does.
I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder!!
I am now hunting an area where shot opertunity is very low. I saw 1 doe this whole season. My chance of shooting a bigger one is much better in this area.
As for me...well I have had a dry few years...when it comes to actually putting meat in the freezer. But during the last few years I changed my style from meat in the freezer to quality deer. I don't want to say trophy hunter, because I believe I am far from that. In my dry years I passed on numerous mature does to see what was (or wasn't) tailing them. I would consider my season of 07 to almost as successful as this year. The odd part is that I killed a nice buck this year and a doe. Last year all I had was a few close encounters with monsters and a few near misses on does.
I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder!!
12-12-2008, 02:02 PM
#20
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
Posts: 433
RE: overlook the fact of killing deer?
This was my 31st year hunting whitetails,witharchery gear as well as a rifle. In that amount of time Ihave taken alot of deerand I must admit when I was younger the thought of killing the animal really never entered my thought process.So I guess you can say I kind of over looked it, butI never once took it for granted and I canassure you that I worked very hard for every one that I got and I truely have appreciated all the deer I have killed.
As I have gotten older, my hunting style has changed and I now find myself trying to only take a mature animal and yes the thought of killing this animal has crossed my mind. It doesn't stop me from killing it, but the thoughts have crossed my mind.
As I have gotten older, my hunting style has changed and I now find myself trying to only take a mature animal and yes the thought of killing this animal has crossed my mind. It doesn't stop me from killing it, but the thoughts have crossed my mind.
