Let's face it gentlemen. We all have our own beliefs and securities within our equipment. And the sense of security surely comesbased onour success with our equipment.

We buy a new arrow head, bow, site, release...whatever...If we double lung a deer with it, we generally will state that we like the equipment because we were successful with it.

"""This is not a fixed bladed, expandable broadhead debate""""

I'm Bs'ing with this guy at work today and he starts off on this crazy story of his first experience with expandable headsand how they Quote" SUCK...

He Says" I hit this deer in the shoulder blade and I never found the deer...I'll never use expandables ever again, dude. Have you ever been faced with this conversation? I just bit my tongue.

I've lost deer with fixed blades and shoulder shots. I guess this entire topic depends on the exact area that the arrow hits. I think some guys say they BLEW threw the shoulder blade...when actually they broke through the shoulder plate/ heavy tendon area.... It's just bad news ..regardless of the head... if youshoot right smack dab into the shoulder socket.

I just hate to see people throw in the towel on expandables.... when in truth...it was a bad shot.

I don't know about the rest of your story but I hate it when someone calls me "dude"

It sucks even WORSE when the ones arguing with you aren't killing ANYTHING!

Todd, I called you DUDE on the phone last nighthahahhahaha

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I agree, alot of blame is unjustly placed on equipment, just the nature of the beast...it is easier to not accept responsibility.

BUT, bad shots do happen to the best of shooters. Im not anticipating hitting a shoulder when I shoot, but if I do...I'd rather have a better chance of blowing through it...and I don't think anyone would argue that fixed heads have better bone penetration. Sure the lost deer is user error, but maybe, just maybe, a different choice of equipment could have made up for that user error by penetrating the bone.

Each head has their positives, and it really just boils down to a personal decision...I am curious though, why would you "hate to see people throw in the towel on expandables"? Why would you care if others have the same equipment choice as you?

I've been biting my tongue lately on a few threads here. No need to cause trouble. In some cases and as the old saying goes "Some things are better left unsaid".

Tembry...too each his own. My point is I hate to see someone give up on something based on their own error...and I will not argue theengineering of fixed heads on solid material... Know doubt...fixed blades break bones....I think this discussion stops when we walk into a perfect world and everyone can put an arrow through the ribs. And if that was the case none of us would be here havin fun on the forum. We'd be on the couch.

Pretty sure the saying is "Some things are better left unsaid."

Could be wrong

Oooops! Thanks finger, I fixed It.