Say is anyone else Hunting those huge Pines that are like 60+ feet tall and the canopy doesn't start till 40+ feet up ? if so I am wondering what pattern your using for these tree I have tried mossy oak, mossy oak obssesion and real tree and still I am getting Busted !!!! I had a nice doe bust me yesterday that was so big I thought is was a buck from a far comming at me untill it got 30 yards and Busted me hard core.
any ideas would be some great help Thanks John

Are you sure they're seeing you or are they maybe smelling you? If you properly break up your silhouette, regardless of camo, you should be fine unless they're smelling you or you're moving a lot. If you're low to the ground this can also be a problem as the deer are more likely to catch any of the slightest movement. Remember, intuition will tell ya that tree tops are not a threat to deer, thus, they don't go around looking up into the tree tops making sure there is nothing there. Sooooo, I'd make sure you're not being busted by your scent and that your silhouette is broken up before heading out and buying new camo.

Are you silhouetting yourself? How high are you?

wind is always in my face, and I am usually in the 18-22ft range and they usually come from the oppisite direction I walk in on, maybe they are smelling me and I don't realize it, But I am a fanatic about scent control, I use the soaps all throught out the season as well as keep all my gear in a bag of leaves scent wafers in my bow case ? I do paint my face verses wear a face mask maybe thats whats killing me, I probrably look like a Monster Owl or Bear with 2 beady eyes standing out in the edge of a tree, LMAO