Ron ..... why not just take a camera ..... in the above scenario, NOTHING would be different .....I'm telling you, if you look deep inside, you will see the kill as the CLIMAX of the hunt ..... the exclamation point if you will ...... in the above scenario, it's the anticipation of THE KILL that makes all that awesome exciting ....at least for me ......

Heres the reason that I can't say anything about "The Kill". I haven't been able to kill any with my bow. I have only been archery hunting for 3 years. 2 of those years I had my son at my side giving him first shot on any deer that came in. Last year I did shot one with a bow, but he was later shot by a rifle hunter so I never got to cherish "The Kill". I am hoping that things are different this year as my son is now hunting in a different area then I am. Hopefully after Saturday I can experience that same feeling that you are talking about.

gmmat - my point was, for a marginal shot (they do happen, even to you) rage may not the best option. yes, they blow the deer wide open when you hit the rib cage. But any head is going to do the job in those cases. my concern is that rage may underperform on marginal shots.

blaming me and saying i need to practice more - is a cop out.

marginal shots happen to the best of us. if they haven't happened to someone yet, then they haven't hunted long enough. i believe 100% that if i was using my old muzzy broadhead the arrow would have penetrated through the bone and out the other side of the deer. creating a much better blood trail then the rage did.

i don't mean to cause an argument. I'm simply saying that it's not all about the size of the entrance hole for me. cripes - the last thing i want to do is start another rage argument. that's a dead horse that needs to be left alone

Rackluster....

NO HEAD is gonna go through hard bone.....other than a rib bone. Not one of them. THAT was my point. Keep your arrow away fromthe hard bones that'll stop BH's ....and stop blaming a BH for a bad shot. That was all I was saying.

PT.....hey...serious question. If you "need the kill"......I've got a scenario for you...

Let's say I could take you out with me this afternoon, here. Do you shoot the first deer you see? I'm trying (honestly!) to understand this "need". If I took you with me this afternoon.....would your need to kill have you shooting the first (all deer, here, are legal) deer that walked by?

Thanks!

I remember when I went out in the woods thinking I needed to kill[>:]


And Rage Broadheads are for the birds! (literally)

i guess we'll just disagree on this one.

No ..yaknow, that's a great question ... the answer is no tho ..... I wouldn't shoot a fawn or anything else YOU wouldn't want me to shoot ..... they would be awesome fun to watch ...... so it's not just to kill ....it's to kill the intended target .... great question ...

"Kill the intended target"

I can buy that.

BTW....if you're here......carte' blanche permission to shoot whatever will make you happy.

The "need" or desire to kill is what hunting is all about, Kyle .... you are a young man ..... if you think it's all about everything BUT the kill, take a paint ball bow out with you ...if ya nail one in the kill zone, he gets a little bruise, and you get ALL of what bowhunting has to offer YOU

There we GO!