What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
#42
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Noble,OK
Posts: 132
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
Offspring contains 50% genes from the doe and 50% of the genes from the buck, thats just the way gametes work. So, by the time you decided to cull a buck at 4.5 years of age he has already shared 50% of his genes for 3 seasons which will keep getting passed on to other offspring. By the time he reaches 4.5 years of age he is not doing the majority of the breeding anyways as stated above that most breeding is done by bucks 1.5 to 2.5 years of age. So shooting to cull is really a useless point.
#43
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
ORIGINAL: fletch920
Definitely not a cull deer here yet in the top photo because he is not mature.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Cull? Or not??
Same deer......
Cull? Or not??
Same deer......
#44
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
Even you herd management guys are missing a solid point. Would a 3.5 yr old+ not be considered a "trophy"....based on age, alone?
Also....the doe may be way mor eimportant in the "gene" argument than many of you are giving her credit for.
Just remember.....if she has twin fawns....there's a real good chance there's two sires. Now figure in HER contribution to each.
Also....the doe may be way mor eimportant in the "gene" argument than many of you are giving her credit for.
Just remember.....if she has twin fawns....there's a real good chance there's two sires. Now figure in HER contribution to each.
#45
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Memphis TN USA
Posts: 3,445
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
From what I saw of him in 2004 he looked to be 3.5. So in the top pic that would put him at 4.5 and harvested at 5.5.
I've said it before, if you want to start talking about trophy status of a buck, lets start taking pics of their teeth.
#46
Fork Horn
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: IOWA
Posts: 400
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
ORIGINAL: _Dan
Fletch, go back and read my posts on this buck one page back.....it'll give you a lot more info on him.
ORIGINAL: fletch920
Definitely not a cull deer here yet in the top photo because he is not mature.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Cull? Or not??
Same deer......
Cull? Or not??
Same deer......
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Memphis TN USA
Posts: 3,445
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
Even you herd management guys are missing a solid point. Would a 3.5 yr old+ not be considered a "trophy"....based on age, alone?
Also....the doe may be way mor eimportant in the "gene" argument than many of you are giving her credit for.
Just remember.....if she has twin fawns....there's a real good chance there's two sires. Now figure in HER contribution to each.
Just remember.....if she has twin fawns....there's a real good chance there's two sires. Now figure in HER contribution to each.
#48
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
ORIGINAL: silentassassin
No offense but you said it yourself, unless the deer was aged then we don't know how old he was in the top photo. He could have made that jump from 3.5 to 4.5 which wouldn't be unprecedented but a jump like that from 4.5 to 5.5 would be extremely rare.
From what I saw of him in 2004 he looked to be 3.5. So in the top pic that would put him at 4.5 and harvested at 5.5.
I've said it before, if you want to start talking about trophy status of a buck, lets start taking pics of their teeth.
#49
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
ORIGINAL: fletch920
I have and it substantiates my point. He was not at least 5 1/2 in the first picture right?? Therefore, not a "cull" candidate in my book. Turned into a great deer though.
ORIGINAL: _Dan
Fletch, go back and read my posts on this buck one page back.....it'll give you a lot more info on him.
Fletch, go back and read my posts on this buck one page back.....it'll give you a lot more info on him.
#50
RE: What's your opinion of the term "Cull buck"?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Cull? Or not??
Same deer......
Cull? Or not??
Same deer......
Cull bucks dont achieve anything in the big picture for a wild herd of animals. The genes have long since been passed down by the time one determines it is a cull. That being said, it doesnt HURT anything to remove the animal from the herd, it does in fact prevent any more breeding on his part.
Remember Jeff, the trophy is in the eye of the beholder....just cause me and you see any 3.5+ deer as a trophy, doesnt mean everyone else does. to each his own I guess.