LOL....NO ONE will answer this...

I'm fully aware that the peep should be set when all anchors are set. Given. But I'll defer to the question above if you say you're not using it as "an" anchor reference.

Agreed! I asked back on page 1, though....that as long as you're not torquing the string.....how can the arrow NOT go where the pin is if the pin housing and the peep are aligned? I also asked in another thread if we couldn't simply squat i.l.o. bending at the waist.....which would maintain the sight line (pin housing centered in peep). I think we can.

In this instance you're either:

1. NOT going to have the correct halo

or

2. You're gonna have to torque the string to get it (or get very close), right?

Which is exactly why it is a trick question,it is not possible.

I answered your peep question,it can be used as a reference and is by many but imo,shouldn't be.

Jeff just man up and shoot without one

I can tell you this, T.....

If you put 100 hunters in front of you and had them draw their bows.....and you moved everyone's peep sight 1" up (beforehand).......

.........THAT is what they'd notice (once all their other anchor references had been established). If people think their peep sight isn't a point of reference for anchoring.....then what do you trust? Do you just look through the peep......other anchors be damned....and shoot? OR....do you get all of your other anchors set.....and then realize.....no KNOW your peep's been compromised?

I trust my anchors.

I have had my peep move slightly and it doesn't take me long to know that it has moved.Not because of where I hit but because I am not comfortable.


I have agreed with you that it does get used as a reference but it shouldn't be.

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That's why a peep is not an anchor reference.The peep is checked by proper anchor. Proper anchor is not checked by the peep; therefore it cannot be an anchor reference. When you drop your bow arm, lower your head, or anything else that changes that"perfect angle form"you practice standing on the ground, your anchor point will change to compensate and "fit" the peep to the sight. So now you have a peep centered in your sight, but changed your anchor to achieve it. How can the peep be a anchor reference if it can cause this kind of error? Again, it's not a rear rifle sight. Bending at the waist from an elevated position keeps you from reinventing your form in a tree.

If you're implying that the archer would foresake other anchors and "trust" his peep ONLY as a reference point.....I agree, wholeheartedly. That's why I said I think looking through the peep would be the last reference.....after all of the others have been "set" is the way it should be done. But to write off the peep as NOT being an anchor reference isn't being realistic in my book. If you get to that point and it's "off".....unless you're using it as a reference point you'd never know. Of course this becomes circular.....because you'd know by virtue of all your other anchors being "right", huh?[8D]

No. It's not the most important (not even second). Yes. It is a reference. Common ground?

Holy semantical GOD!

AGAIN....you're assuming the archer is placing too much emphasis on the peep being AN anchor reference and that he's foresaking all other anchor references to only get a clear sight window. I'm not saying he's doing that at all.....or advocating it.

Assuming all other anchor points are intact, though.....the peep is AN anchor reference. For you to say it isn't....you HAVE to assume he's compromising his other references. I dont' have to say that to claim it is.

I've never used a peep...I anchor at the corner of my mouth (I shoot fingers) and make sure that I bring my nose down and touch the string...That is the key to me shooting from an elevated position...I found out years ago that if I wore a face mask then I couldn't feel the string as well with my nose and I shot high (twice on one deer I shot high!!!)...

Lesson learned...Take the face mask off and I'm bending my neck, feeling the string which ineffect lowers the rear sight picture...I did learn that my bow must be pretty quiet and fast enough...Both times the deer stood there while the arrow stuck in the ground behind him, he didn't know what happened and finally walked away...

I feel like quoting the Hoppe's gun care commercial. I don't really need to know how it works. I just know that it does. I had someone show me one day. It worked and from that day forth, I bent at the waist.