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Matt / PA 07-10-2008 05:42 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: MichaelT.

The point of my input is ....... that percentage wise, when crossbows came into the picture, we did not double the total number of hunters..... we did not add to it by 50% even..... we did not even add 50% of the total number of bowhunters........ to the total number of hunters....... you just made our point for us..... There was not some God awful explosion of crossbow hunters that raped the state, and there was NOT a significant number of gun hunters who decided to then bow hunt with a bow of any kind.....

So I believe all of your purported scare numbers are overestimated ...... and what you think is laughable here in Arkansas is fine by me, cause we are managing our resources well, we are not over hunted , we don't have tons of slob hunters in any season, and we still welcome the additional hunters in any season or catagory..... so who is really doing the better job here...... 4 tags a year AND we have crossbows..... maybe your state should be listening to us....

You don't hear we Arkansans crying out loud do ya??? bye the way, heres a tissue.....

MET

LOL, your input is duly noted and now that I did a little research for my own sanity......well let's just say, jump back in the discussion when your state picks up another 10,000,000 (That'sten MILLION) people. ;)



MichaelT. 07-10-2008 05:48 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 
Believe me Matt, I am duly educated enough to know how many zeros that is, but thanks for your expert explaination of numbers..... I am amazed.

And I appreciate the invite to have input into YOUR forum..... your parents must be proud of all your accomplishments.

MET

Matt / PA 07-10-2008 05:54 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: MichaelT.

Believe me Matt, I am duley educated enough to know how many zeros that is, but thanks for your expert explaination of numbers..... I am amazed.

And I appreciate the invite to have input into YOUR forum..... your parents must be proud of all your accomplishments.

MET

You're very welcome and yes they are........:D

Just want to make sure the full scope of geographic and demographic differences between Arkansas and Pennsylvania is fully understood before I start breaking those raw numbers down even further into population vs. actual huntable land etc.
If anyone from ANYWHERE still feels that Arkansas is a model for what we should do here in PA just based upon raw numbers alone, please speak up. ;)

Just tokeep it fresh ineveryones memory:

ARKANSAS:

You have 241,000+/- resident HUNTERS
You have 48,000 +/- "archery" hunters

You live in a state with a total size of 53,179 sq, miles with a population 2,673,400 people which = 51.34 people per square mile

PENNSYLVANIA

We have 1,000,000 resident hunters +/-
We have 278,000 bowhunters +/-

We live in a state with a total size of 46,055 sq miles with a total population of 12,281,054 people which = 274.02 people per square mile





Germ 07-10-2008 05:58 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: Matt / PA


ORIGINAL: MichaelT.

Believe me Matt, I am duley educated enough to know how many zeros that is, but thanks for your expert explaination of numbers..... I am amazed.

And I appreciate the invite to have input into YOUR forum..... your parents must be proud of all your accomplishments.

MET



You're very welcome and yes they are........:D

Just want to make sure the full scope of geographic and demographic differences between Arkansas and Pennsylvania is fully understood before I start breaking those raw numbers down even further into population vs. actual huntable land etc.
If anyone from ANYWHERE still feels that Arkansas is a model for what we should do here in PA just based upon raw numbers alone, please speak up. ;)

Just tokeep it fresh ineveryones memory:

ARKANSAS:

You have 241,000+/- resident HUNTERS
You have 48,000 +/- "archery" hunters

You live in a state with a total size of 53,179 sq, miles with a population 2,673,400 people which = 51.34 people per square mile

PENNSYLVANIA

We have 1,000,000 resident hunters +/-
We have 278,000 bowhunters +/-

We live in a state with a total size of 46,055 sq miles with a total population of 12,281,054 people which = 274.02 people per square mile

Matt PA does have 2 Undisputed Kings also[8D]

Matt / PA 07-10-2008 05:59 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 

Matt PA does have 2 Undisputed Kings also[8D]
I'll just let the wannabes destroy themselves and assume reign by default.
;)

MichaelT. 07-10-2008 06:15 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 
Let those who are afraid, and selfish, prove themselves by their arguments.

You blast away with those numbers, we in Arkansas still arent the ones crying......

Why, our hunting is real good down here , and we like bringing in new hunters....

Sounds like you're right, you should model us....... oh wait, never mind, you can't do things the way we do , and be scared too.....

Crow , Matt, crow ..... pride goeth before the fall...

MET

BTW... you are the one choosing to live in a state with 6X the population and 25 % of the annual deer tags ..... so which one of us is smarter....... again, here's your tissue.


Matt / PA 07-10-2008 06:24 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 

ORIGINAL: MichaelT.

Let those who are afraid, and selfish, prove themselves by their arguments.

You blast away with those numbers, we in Arkansas still arent the ones crying......

Why, our hunting is real good down here , and we like bringing in new hunters....

Sounds like you're right, you should model us....... oh wait, never mind, you can't do things the way we do , and be scared too.....

Crow , Matt, crow ..... pride goeth before the fall...

MET
LOL seriously you're not making any sense whatsoever.....how are we going model ourselves after a state that is BIGGER, has 10,000,000 less people, and 750,000 less HUNTERS?

The only chance I have of modelling PA after your beautiful state (and I mean that :)) is to become the "King of PA" and exile 10,000,000 people to Arkansas where YOU can deal with them and welcome them into the population.
Of course your not the ones "crying" and hunting is good, overcrowding is not an issue ,and you welcome new hunters.........the numbers pretty muchtell methat in plain english.:eek:

It's not crying man, it's FACTS. The fact is you can't compare PA to Arkansas. Cross that one off the list because it's not possible. The only thing PA and Arkansas have in common is that we both have people who hunt, beyond that the numbers pretty much dictate the fundamental differences.



Kybuckhunter 07-10-2008 06:30 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 
They are nothing more than another weapon to use and enjoy the great outdoors. End of story

Schultzy 07-10-2008 06:46 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 

the P&Y club I'm guessing
What about the P&Y club Duane? If it wasn't for them chances are we wouldn't have the rights we do today as bow hunters. They have fought major battles for us to do what we've been doing for many years. They are our biggest protectors of bow hunting and all you can do is shove your dirty hands down there throat and bitch about them. Talk about greedy!!!![:@] Keep biting the hand that feeds ya!! Thats real smooth man!!

Schultzy 07-10-2008 07:01 PM

RE: Opinions on Crossbows
 

Oddly, I never see a whole lot of comments about what we've got being darn well good enough and encouraging manufacturers to put on the brakes.
I've said it before and I usually get hammered on every time I've brought it up.[8D];)


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