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Old 04-29-2008 | 05:12 PM
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It's not that you asked, it's how you asked... I mean really. You insinuated that there was something innately wrong in it rather than stating that you were seeking to understand something you knew little about.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 05:18 PM
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Actually inthe initial thread hemade itvery clear what he wanted to know, and how he felt about it.I think it was worded in such a way as to get an answer. Boy, did he get answers!
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Old 04-29-2008 | 05:24 PM
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Thats good I am glad whens the lasttime you walk up in the open on a white tail buck like that guy did with that giraffe or any african game from what I have seen with the exception of a couple speices.Some guy just killed a zebra on t v with 475 or some cannon that looked tough 5 guys dressed in white kakis the hunnter in real tree funny.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 05:26 PM
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Vabowman, the problem is you come on here and assume that it's "silly" or "killing just to kill" and somehow not justifiable.

You admit you're ignorant about giraffe hunting and African hunting in general. Maybe do some research next time instead of coming on here and calling some form of hunting "rediculous" right off the bat.



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Old 04-29-2008 | 05:33 PM
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Teds on I think he,s shooting fawns in pens
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Old 04-29-2008 | 05:53 PM
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Nice post Fran!
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Old 04-29-2008 | 06:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: Vabowman

Maybe big country, but shooting a giraffe isn't gonna help either. Let's be honest, is someone actually going to Africa to help the economy, or are they going to kill something or both? If you say both ok fine, you and I know that going to kill something is at the top of the list of reasons. Fine, just say it, say that I want to shoot a giraffe to shoot a giraffe and mount it!! Don't try to sugar coat it by giving me all the other reasons such as helping the economy or feeding the village.That couldbe resolved by sending 20,000$ to the locals, it would go much further than you paying a government and an outfitter that is also owned by a white man who doesn't share the wealth. Trust me on this, I may not know everything about African countries, but I know a lot about them,they are mostly run by corrupt governments and the money you spend ain't going to the locals or the tribes.It doesn't matter to me that you shoot a giraffe to mount it, just don't give me the BS.
I don't quite know what games being played here but if you really know Africa you know the locals won't get the 20,000 before the government does. There is a limit on the amount of cash you can take, I don't remember what it was but I think it's 10,000. As far as the "white man" comment... i've seen some of the people who've benifited, them people really spend to much time working on their tan.

I seem to remember a bunch of white people being thrown off their land recently and I just so happen to know one of them through my brother. Your going to have to put up a lot more than some racial "white man" comment for me to"trust you".

Africa offers a product that people are willing to pay for. Your origanal clam was that there is no good reason to shoot a giraffe not that the shooter needs high morals, and as stated their are good reasons to shoot them.

If it doesn't matter to you then why start the post and in the manner you did? It clearly does matter to you!




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Old 04-29-2008 | 06:58 PM
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After fourteen pages I guess its time for me to tell you the real reason.






It's Because its a Chevy truck cheaper than going to Texas and shooting another white tailed buck that scores 180 B.C. and every thirteen year old I know has already done that.
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Old 04-29-2008 | 07:05 PM
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u say about why he may have payed alot but that helps there country and the kids who have no food almost all them hunts the meant goes to the villages u get skin and the privlage to mount and the thought of helping the hungery and i thank the people who contribute to them u think its getting bad her in united states take a trip over there and see all the children. ull think different
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Old 04-29-2008 | 07:09 PM
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Nodog, I know exactly just that, they won't get a dime, my point is they very well may not see it either way, and Im not sure anyone really cares. Except for them. Im sorry that this thread turned into this in a way, but in a way it is good dialogue for many of us. I said from the start that I was ignorant to it for the most part and that I wanted to know what compelled people to shoot giraffes. Ok, maybe I could have said it a different way, but I was shocked to see it on tv honestly. As far as black Africans and their relations with white Afrikaans, yes Afrikaans is the correct spelling for the whites Im speaking of. If you look at the history of colonization in Africa as a whole, it was quite lop-sided. In favor of the Europeans. To the Europeans, African history starts with them, when they came to colonize. Read any book by a European historian on Africa and you will see the slant. As far as land being taken back from the whites, well, who's was it start with? Let's remember that apartheid was only dismantled in the 1990's and these people have become dependent upon a system that has completely failed them. Remember the plight of the natives in this country, colonization destroyed their lifestyle. Im not saying that the whites in Africa should have their land taken, but then again,who was taken from in the first place, put yourself in their shoes, and in the shoes of the Native Americans here, couldn't blame them if they wanted it back either....
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