|
RE: FAST??
ORIGINAL: quiksilver Honest question guys -Regarding speed versus KE Which of these two do you think are more likely to happen: [ol][*]You misjudge the yardage and hit high/low; or[*]You make a good hit inthe vitals and don't have enough KE to penetrate.[/ol] Let's just presume that both guys are using 60-70# bows, and both arrows are packing more than 55# KE. (likely) Personally, I think I'm more likely to screw up (on a whitetail)by misjudging the yardage on a longer shot - than I am to lose a deer b/c I made a good hit but my arrow didn't penetrate. That's why I play the speed game. Now if I were hunting rhinoceros or polar bears - my opinion would change. It's a matter of inchessometimes on penatration;) Average whitetail is shot at 17 yds, which is why I play the KE game. Fran when I go elk hunting, I may go lighter. Right now I am above 550 grains. For Elk I may fo 425-450 because of distance. |
RE: FAST??
lets not for get silence. the bow must be quiet while spitting arrows at those speeds if its not then its not worth a da**. thats why I bought a mathews switchback orriginally. it was supper quiet in the shop shooting lane and it still had some giddy up to it.
I get 250 out of the hunting set up. its plenty for me. |
RE: FAST??
See Gary - I think most of the bad hits (nonrecoveries) aren't a factor of KE lacking. Just bad shooting - and occasionally misjudging the yardage.
|
RE: FAST??
Switch shooter that is the big one IMO and most over looked.
Quick put a 550+ grain arrow on the HCA and then one of your speed rockets. All I can say is in 24 years of bowhunting I have never had a deer "jump" my string. I bet I shoot a slower setup than most here. |
RE: FAST??
Really not all that much difference, Gary. I put an STS on it - bowjax on both limbs - and bowjax on the cables - and she's pretty quiet. All you can hear is the string slapping the STS bumper.
I agree though - it's a personal preference. And I can see both sides of the fence. But honestly, I think the perceived "need" for insane KE is overstated by most on this board. I'd take a better trajectory 10 times out of 10 - as long as I'm hunting whities. |
RE: FAST??
ORIGINAL: quiksilver See Gary - I think most of the bad hits (nonrecoveries) aren't a factor of KE lacking. Just bad shooting - and occasionally misjudging the yardage. |
RE: FAST??
IEI - your setupmay or may not out-penetrate my bow (you have me by 4# KE). But does it really matter? We're both probably way overbowed for whitetails anyway. So it's a zero-sum game. For what it's worth, You might be surprised by the results of our "friendly game." I know I was. I had NO intent on hunting with this setup when I started experimenting with it. But I had enough confidence in it to lug it out there and my first shot at a deer was at 37 yards.
Honestly, it doesn't take much to punch through a ribcage. Hell, I shot 2 pretty nice bucks this year - passed through both. Just like KE can be a crutch for bad shooting - speed can be a crutch for misjudged yardage. |
RE: FAST??
ORIGINAL: quiksilver IEI - your setupmay or may not out-penetrate my bow. But does it really matter? We're both probably way overbowed for whitetails anyway. So it's a zero-sum game. You might be surprised by the results of our "friendly game." I know I was. I had NO intent on hunting with this setup when I started experimenting with it. Honestly, it doesn't take much to punch through a ribcage. Hell, I shot 2 pretty nice bucks this year - passed through both. Just like KE can be a crutch for bad shooting - speed can be a crutch for misjudged yardage. |
RE: FAST??
Fran wait to you crutch one in the shoulder and I have with my setups. He looks good on the wall;)
|
RE: FAST??
To be totally honest, Gary - I think I may have blew through shoulder blade on Buck #2 this year. He was quartering-toward a little, and I hit a little forward and high entry. I never skinned him to see, but if I didn't hit the shoulderblade, I was close.
Smashed something pretty hard, b/c I heard it hit hard and the arrow was barely sticking in the ground. The first deer was clean rib punchthrough - and it was buried 4" deep in the mud, far side. |
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:25 AM. |
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.