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So what do you concider "fast" when it comes to your bows
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280+ is a fast bowhunting setup in my eyes.
For Germ.....250fps :D |
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400g @ 300fps
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When they try to get to second base on the first shot.
Really, I think anything above 250 is plenty fast for a hunting bow, and could be less. |
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ORIGINAL: oilpatchpride 400g @ 300fps |
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wheres quik?
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anything over the 280's is very quick, but anything over 300 is cooking, that is with the right size arrow for hunting.
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ORIGINAL: Vabowman anything over the 280's is very quick, but anything over 300 is cooking, that is with the right size arrow for hunting. |
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Personally I consider anything over 250 to be fast. Then again I am small. For an everage person I would say maybe 270 plus with over 60 lbs of draw weight and modern carbon arrows.
I personally don't shoot that fast, but if had a bow capable of faster speeds I would up my arrow weight until I leveled out around 250 fps or so. My set up will actually shoot around 270 or so if I use a light enough arrow, but I like heavier arrows and my speeds are closer to the 200-220 fps mark. Paul |
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I agree with those that say, anything over 280fps is fast.
It really is. |
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Because no two shooters or set ups are created equally in regards to draw weight, draw length, arrow weight, etc... I look at what a bow can actually get from a realIBO set up.
I consider 310 - 320 to be"fast". If it can do an honest320+.... that is "smokin". If it can do a real340+.... that is "on fire". |
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ORIGINAL: idahoelkinstructor ORIGINAL: Vabowman anything over the 280's is very quick, but anything over 300 is cooking, that is with the right size arrow for hunting. |
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A hunting set-up that is shooting at 280 is fast and one that is doing 290+ is really getin'er!!
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280fps
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This is fast...for me:D. 26" draw @50lbs:
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My Marquis is shooting 269,270 right now. I could change some things to get it faster,but my old bow was at 236fps, so I feel I'm shooting a barn burner right now.:)
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Fast or deadly?
I shoot about 241fps and have got a handful of deer. My buddy shot a 1982 Hoyt he bought used that shot 175fps, he has more deer than me! Speed's not the only thing that kills, but, yes it could help!  |
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doe girl dont feel bad abot your speed I am a 27year old guy with a 26" draw length I shoot a guardian 70lbs a goldtip 3555 and my bow shoots 281 with a 355 grain arrow I have 61flbs of ke more than enough for deer and elk in my book. shoots deer out to 50 yards no problem+
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thats why when i bought the general i didnt even care how fast it was. its so damn quiet. im not even gonna put any string silencers or vibrablocks on it b/c its quiet enough as it is.
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i think that anything 270+ fps is PLENTY fast enough
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I prefer KE over FPS;)
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ORIGINAL: RockinChair I prefer KE over FPS;) |
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With out speed there is no KE. ;)
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ORIGINAL: idahoelkinstructor ORIGINAL: RockinChair I prefer KE over FPS;) |
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Agreed. I'm getting almost 80# of KE on a 290 grain arrow. (350 fps in my hunting setup)
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Because I have a shorter DL 28-28.5 , most of the bows I've owned were around 270fps at best w/ my hunting arrows.
I don't know why , and I can't explain it , but I've all of a sudden found "a need for speed". I don't know where it came from , but I got the speed bug. With the Synergy I have, a hunting weight arrow(375gr) is doing over290fps. That's 70.53# of KE. I have a GTO ordered that willshoot that arrow at 300+. That's smokin'. I would say that 290 is fast....but I'll never catch quicksilver. |
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I consider 250 FPS fast
I keep all my hunting bows between 230-250 FPS. I get pretty close to 80 lbs KE. I also get a quieter bow, more accurate and better performance in the wind. I cannot think of a negative for shooting aheaviest setup you can for a hunting bow, being most of thekills are within 20 yds;) |
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Honest question guys -Regarding speed versus KE
Which of these two do you think are more likely to happen: [ol][*]You misjudge the yardage and hit high/low; or[*]You make a good hit inthe vitals and don't have enough KE to penetrate.[/ol] Let's just presume that both guys are using 60-70# bows, and both arrows are packing more than 55# KE. (likely) Personally, I think I'm more likely to screw up (on a whitetail)by misjudging the yardage on a longer shot - than I am to lose a deer b/c I made a good hit but my arrow didn't penetrate. That's why I play the speed game. Now if I were hunting rhinoceros or polar bears - my opinion would change. |
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I LIKE ANY BOW PUSHING AN 385GR ARROW OVER 300 FPS...MORE SPEED THE BETTER THOUGH....QUIK...I DO AGREE THAT SHOT PLACEMENT IS BETTER OVERALL THEN K.E....MY GIRL FREIND DROPPED A DOE LAST SEASON WITH A BOW DOING 210FPS....ARROW WENT COMPLETELY THROUGH THE DEER.
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29in Draw 60 lbs
310gr 331 fps76 lbs KE 385gr 310 fps 82 lbs KE |
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver Honest question guys -Regarding speed versus KE Which of these two do you think are more likely to happen: [ol][*]You misjudge the yardage and hit high/low; or[*]You make a good hit inthe vitals and don't have enough KE to penetrate.[/ol] Let's just presume that both guys are using 60-70# bows, and both arrows are packing more than 55# KE. (likely) Personally, I think I'm more likely to screw up (on a whitetail)by misjudging the yardage on a longer shot - than I am to lose a deer b/c I made a good hit but my arrow didn't penetrate. That's why I play the speed game. Now if I were hunting rhinoceros or polar bears - my opinion would change. It's a matter of inchessometimes on penatration;) Average whitetail is shot at 17 yds, which is why I play the KE game. Fran when I go elk hunting, I may go lighter. Right now I am above 550 grains. For Elk I may fo 425-450 because of distance. |
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lets not for get silence. the bow must be quiet while spitting arrows at those speeds if its not then its not worth a da**. thats why I bought a mathews switchback orriginally. it was supper quiet in the shop shooting lane and it still had some giddy up to it.
I get 250 out of the hunting set up. its plenty for me. |
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See Gary - I think most of the bad hits (nonrecoveries) aren't a factor of KE lacking. Just bad shooting - and occasionally misjudging the yardage.
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Switch shooter that is the big one IMO and most over looked.
Quick put a 550+ grain arrow on the HCA and then one of your speed rockets. All I can say is in 24 years of bowhunting I have never had a deer "jump" my string. I bet I shoot a slower setup than most here. |
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Really not all that much difference, Gary. I put an STS on it - bowjax on both limbs - and bowjax on the cables - and she's pretty quiet. All you can hear is the string slapping the STS bumper.
I agree though - it's a personal preference. And I can see both sides of the fence. But honestly, I think the perceived "need" for insane KE is overstated by most on this board. I'd take a better trajectory 10 times out of 10 - as long as I'm hunting whities. |
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver See Gary - I think most of the bad hits (nonrecoveries) aren't a factor of KE lacking. Just bad shooting - and occasionally misjudging the yardage. |
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IEI - your setupmay or may not out-penetrate my bow (you have me by 4# KE). But does it really matter? We're both probably way overbowed for whitetails anyway. So it's a zero-sum game. For what it's worth, You might be surprised by the results of our "friendly game." I know I was. I had NO intent on hunting with this setup when I started experimenting with it. But I had enough confidence in it to lug it out there and my first shot at a deer was at 37 yards.
Honestly, it doesn't take much to punch through a ribcage. Hell, I shot 2 pretty nice bucks this year - passed through both. Just like KE can be a crutch for bad shooting - speed can be a crutch for misjudged yardage. |
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver IEI - your setupmay or may not out-penetrate my bow. But does it really matter? We're both probably way overbowed for whitetails anyway. So it's a zero-sum game. You might be surprised by the results of our "friendly game." I know I was. I had NO intent on hunting with this setup when I started experimenting with it. Honestly, it doesn't take much to punch through a ribcage. Hell, I shot 2 pretty nice bucks this year - passed through both. Just like KE can be a crutch for bad shooting - speed can be a crutch for misjudged yardage. |
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Fran wait to you crutch one in the shoulder and I have with my setups. He looks good on the wall;)
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To be totally honest, Gary - I think I may have blew through shoulder blade on Buck #2 this year. He was quartering-toward a little, and I hit a little forward and high entry. I never skinned him to see, but if I didn't hit the shoulderblade, I was close.
Smashed something pretty hard, b/c I heard it hit hard and the arrow was barely sticking in the ground. The first deer was clean rib punchthrough - and it was buried 4" deep in the mud, far side. |
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