If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
03-23-2008, 10:29 AM
#41
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Roanoke, Va
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RE: If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
Not surprising, it's my head of choice after 5Shot said the same thing, tough and accurate and the holes are unbelievable. 
ORIGINAL: ducsauce
Just watched the video. I should havewatched it before responding the firsttime.[&:]Very interesting. I would like to see some more ppl respond.
I see that the Rocky Mtn synpersperformed the best. I would have liked to have seen them test the Rage but I take it this was an older video?
Just watched the video. I should havewatched it before responding the firsttime.[&:]Very interesting. I would like to see some more ppl respond.
I see that the Rocky Mtn synpersperformed the best. I would have liked to have seen them test the Rage but I take it this was an older video?
03-23-2008, 10:46 AM
#42
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jun 2007
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RE: If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Exactly Dan! I am a hunter as well and I could care less what my field points are doing. What makes me happy is what my BH's are doing.
Exactly Dan! I am a hunter as well and I could care less what my field points are doing. What makes me happy is what my BH's are doing.
Dan
03-23-2008, 10:56 AM
#45
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
Posts: 18,322
RE: If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
ORIGINAL: ducsauce
I'm almost thinking that I'm going to try the Synpers this spring for turkeys and quite possibly in the fall too. What made you choose the Snypers over Rage? Just the fact you were already using the Snypers when Rage came into the picture?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
Not surprising, it's my head of choice after 5Shot said the same thing, tough and accurate and the holes are unbelievable.
ORIGINAL: ducsauce
Just watched the video. I should havewatched it before responding the firsttime.[&:]Very interesting. I would like to see some more ppl respond.
I see that the Rocky Mtn synpersperformed the best. I would have liked to have seen them test the Rage but I take it this was an older video?
Just watched the video. I should havewatched it before responding the firsttime.[&:]Very interesting. I would like to see some more ppl respond.
I see that the Rocky Mtn synpersperformed the best. I would have liked to have seen them test the Rage but I take it this was an older video?
03-23-2008, 03:36 PM
#47
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Altadena CA
Posts: 494
RE: If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
Guess it's my turn to weigh in on this oft-discussed issue. Several observations:
1. I've owned ten or so hunting bows of various makes over the last decade. With every one of them, the BHs (several brands, including Muzzy, Montec and Bear) always hit a few inches low and left of the FPs at 40 yards no matter how much I tinkered.
2. 99.9% of the folks who post comments like "my BHs hit the same as my FPs" never state what range they're talking about. (This thread has contained several refreshing exceptions to that.) Since most bowhuntersshoot fairly short distances from trees, perhaps that's why they never specify distance, I don't know.
3. Every guy I know who says "My BHs hit with my FPs" is lucky to hit afive gallon bucket at 40 yds with either. (Don't read anything into that observation other than the fact that I know some pretty bad shots who are also self-deluded.)
3. If I can tune (paper, walk-back, etc.) FPs and also get bare shafts to hit with FPs out to 25 yards, my BHs will group well and hit darn close to FPs at further distances. I still have to snidge the sight 1/32" or so vertically and horizontally before hunting, a task that takes all of two minutes.
That being said, if someone here can shoot ten arrows (five FPs and five BHs, shot alternately with consistent skill throughout) at 50 yards and post a photo of the group, I'd love to see it. If it's a good group and the two types of tips are nicely comingled, kudos to you, and I'd love to hear your secrets. I'll also buy youlunch next time I'm at your range.
1. I've owned ten or so hunting bows of various makes over the last decade. With every one of them, the BHs (several brands, including Muzzy, Montec and Bear) always hit a few inches low and left of the FPs at 40 yards no matter how much I tinkered.
2. 99.9% of the folks who post comments like "my BHs hit the same as my FPs" never state what range they're talking about. (This thread has contained several refreshing exceptions to that.) Since most bowhuntersshoot fairly short distances from trees, perhaps that's why they never specify distance, I don't know.
3. Every guy I know who says "My BHs hit with my FPs" is lucky to hit afive gallon bucket at 40 yds with either. (Don't read anything into that observation other than the fact that I know some pretty bad shots who are also self-deluded.)
3. If I can tune (paper, walk-back, etc.) FPs and also get bare shafts to hit with FPs out to 25 yards, my BHs will group well and hit darn close to FPs at further distances. I still have to snidge the sight 1/32" or so vertically and horizontally before hunting, a task that takes all of two minutes.
That being said, if someone here can shoot ten arrows (five FPs and five BHs, shot alternately with consistent skill throughout) at 50 yards and post a photo of the group, I'd love to see it. If it's a good group and the two types of tips are nicely comingled, kudos to you, and I'd love to hear your secrets. I'll also buy youlunch next time I'm at your range.
03-23-2008, 03:41 PM
#48
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Da U.P. eh!
Posts: 334
RE: If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
After my broadhead blows through my intended targets lungs, I've never heard them complain about whether my field points hit the same as my broadheads!
03-23-2008, 06:48 PM
#49
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Treasure Lake DuBois,Pa.
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RE: If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
I have seen this video before. And I had the same thoughts again. The bow in the test I don't believe was tuned to it's potential. I agree w/ TFOX. just bc a bow will paper tune ,doesn't mean it's tuned. I've papered many bows( possibly all of them)that needed a tweak to the windage and elevation in order to shoot a TIGHT group out to +/-45yrds. Paper is not the end of tuning. And I have aging eyes. How do I know that tear is PERFECT?
I would not believe that test bow was tuned bc most impacts were low and/or left. A slight rest adjustment would NOT be noticable in a paper tear.... And what about spinning the heads???
I'm thinking that bow was not "tuned" to my liking.(If it were mine)
My expierence is this. When I (and other) have stated same POI , I believe 1 in. give or take at 40yrds qualifies. Unless you want to knit pick my shooting. And you could.
I'm going to give the BH's the benefit of the doubt on this one. Granted , they aren't ALL great heads. But I would bet quite a few of the heads could have had the same POI. JMHO.
I would not believe that test bow was tuned bc most impacts were low and/or left. A slight rest adjustment would NOT be noticable in a paper tear.... And what about spinning the heads???
I'm thinking that bow was not "tuned" to my liking.(If it were mine)
My expierence is this. When I (and other) have stated same POI , I believe 1 in. give or take at 40yrds qualifies. Unless you want to knit pick my shooting. And you could.
I'm going to give the BH's the benefit of the doubt on this one. Granted , they aren't ALL great heads. But I would bet quite a few of the heads could have had the same POI. JMHO.
03-23-2008, 08:06 PM
#50
Join Date: May 2006
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RE: If your BH's and FP's hit the same it means your bow is out of tune!?
The machine only shows one part of the equation.
The muzzy was 3" inches off the mark.
But what if a group of three arrows w/ muzzys were shot and the end result was a double robinhood 3" away from the "x"?
I'd think I would do the easy thing and adjust my sights.
The muzzy was 3" inches off the mark.
But what if a group of three arrows w/ muzzys were shot and the end result was a double robinhood 3" away from the "x"?
I'd think I would do the easy thing and adjust my sights.