I don't think it is ludicrous to think that. In fact, I'd be willing to be there are guys on this board that could go down to Florida and hit those swamps and have a deer within a week. I've also hunted with guys that look at spots that I hunt like they were on Mars, and these guys aren't dumb.

I see what you are saying about the average HNIer being more adept than average joe weekend hunter, and I agree. On the other hand, some guys just can't catch on in a new spot. It is just very difficult for them. You make it a different type of habitat and that difficulty grows quite a bit. Not for all guys, but some, and I'd bet some on here too.

Yes and no.

Depends on who the hunter is and on what sort of property they're being put on.

If Jeff were to hunt Troy's (Shed33) woods out here in Idaho, I doubt he would have as much success as he has had so far on the property back home. The terrain differs greatly. The size of the woods being hunted is vastly different. The deer are more spread out out here on the public land than they are in Jeff's woods.

Give him several years and his success would likely increase.

If the concentration of deer is high, as it is in Jeff's woods, I think a lot of hunters would have similar success. Put someone who is used to high numbers of deer on a small parcel of land onto a large parcel of land where the deer are less concentrated and I think that hunter may have a difficult time tagging out on a mature animal.

[Jeff, I only use you as an example and am in no way trying to take away from the success you've had recently. ]

Dan I don't disagree with anything you said. I go back, again, to the EQUAL learning curve statement I made.

Yes. I agree with all. Anyone coming to hunt where I do would likely be successful. The numbers alone make that a slam-dunk. But....couldn't we (I ASK) use this same analogy and apply it to people's woods that have high densities (relatively speaking) of P&Y caliber animals?

Would that person coming here know all the right place and nuances immediately? Not likely. Nor would anyone going into a big buck target rich environment (again,.....relatively speaking) be a shoo-in. I concede that....and have all along.

But given the same learning curve.....I think we're in some awesome whitetail hunting company on this forum.

I suppose I can agree with that. (I didn't read past the initial question before making my reply. These 10+ page threads lately are driving me nuts. LOL)

Jeff, if you were given two years to go out and hunt and scout and learn Troy's woods I still doubt you would be similar in results to Troy. That's not a knock against you, I wouldn't have similar results either. Those woods are vastly different than what we hunt and Troy is an exceptional woodsman in that environment. We aren't all equals and it is more than just location that determines our successes.

I bet GregH could go hunt GMMAT's area for one season and kill one of the best bucks there. (During that season)[:-]

Equal learning curve? If I already know math and you don't wouldn't I be way ahead? Regardless of our equal learning curve.

Hey Jim that is my job Cheers!

I really wish it didn't have to be made like GMMAT vs. everyone. I don't and didn'tdo that. I haven't once brought my situation vs. someone else's into this. In fact...when i referenced it right off the bat....I noted the likely EASE someone from outside would have, here.

And I also imagine troy's learning curve is greater than 2 years.....which is the entire premise of my statements.

If you were to say if two guys equal experience(years/hours ofhunting ) with an equal learning curve were put in new placeneither had hunted, I think you would see basically the same ersults.