LOl, Bob.....

To a certain point….

Granted the most important factor is certainly to have mature deer on the property you’ll be hunting… But beyond that - I think that to assume that every hunter hunting the same ground will have the same results is absolutely not true…

There are so many other factors to consider such as, stand placement, knowing when to hunt what stand when, various hunting tactics/strategies, and just pure instinct & determination (which I think is often under rated). Just like in sports, one person may spend 4 hours a day practicing to become a better player basketball player, but they may never be better than the kid next door that practices 2 hours a day…. To a point, I think that applies to hunting. I know guys who hunt and hunt and hunt, and I know they are on good farms, they just don’t make good ‘hunting decisions’ and consequently they just don’t have the ‘luck’ that I believe other hunters would have hunting those same areas…

And Jeff quite bluntly (99% of us give you mass props for what you've done, regardless of years doing it) You take a lot of deer and in the past 2 years you have taken a Buck near the top endof your gene pool. Many have said that that's the accomplishment we all strive for.

The only one who needs constant reassurance or qualifying statements is you. No one questions your ability and we understand you hunt in an area where many P&Y's are not running around.

You are my Friend, thats not gonna change if you get skunked for the next 10 years and we're not gonna be better friends if you shoot a 170 Class Buck (Although I'll be down sooner )

You're a heck of a nice guy, giving in somany ways...You don't judge others on the bucks they choose to shoot..just as most of us don't judge each other on those grounds. Yes, this is a hunting site and many good bucks are killed..but it's also a community where some life-long friendships are formed.

Thats why most of us are here, for the comaradarie, the friendships, a way to pass the mundane days when we are at work or at home and want to talk about what we are passionate about. You have nothing to defend and nothing to prove..You've made it.

We know you're not in this "debate thing"alone, heck anyone of us can identify the key players. But you are the common denominator in most instances.

Your a Man, a Loyal Husband, a Father, a Friend, a Businesssman.....who is a Hunter.

Which Quality would you best like to be judged by? Cuz I learned all of these thingsthrough a "Hunting Board"!


Happy Easter all...

For someone who doesn't give a rat's ass, you sure do argue a lot.

Differing point of view. You got it. I started my hunting career in SW PA and could pretty much pick a spot to hunt and expect to see deer in a reasonable amount of time if they were there. I moved to Central PA for college and again hunted public land and could put myself on deer.

Then I moved to Florida. I lived there 5 years and hunted that state's public land and on piece of private (for 2 days)arguably 3 of those 5 years. I shot zero deer. I know there were deer there, but I got none of them. During that time I hunted in NJ twice for one week each time and collected 6 deer during those 2 weeks. I also hunted a farm in GA during that time and was on deer within 3 hours of scouting.

I moved back to PA and again back on deer pretty much wherever I hunt.

Given my track record would yousay it is fair to conclude that there was something about hunting the sawgrass and swamps of Florida that I had trouble grasping and putting together how to get it done down there? I will admit that limitations prevented me from hunting but a handful of times while down there, but anywhere else if I put in the same time and effort inI was on deer. Hence, hunting different environments=different challenges.

LOL.

Bry....the only thing I've been saying is....I think it's ludicrous to think that anyone else would have DISsimilar results than you.

GR8....I appreciate the kind words.....

I look at it this way....

If someone said to me....the key to killing a lot of deer....is hunting where a lot of deer are.....I wouldn't feel threatened in the least by that proclamation. It's the truth.

Why is different when we interject a different scenario? I don't have anything to prove to anyone. I don't think this is that hard. I make no claims of anything other than "average".

And I, too, wish all a wonderful holiday.

Experience, experience, experience. It's what makes anyone good at anything. I really don't think everyone can expect to tag a P&Y calss deer every season. (No matter whose property you are on) If you know Mature deer, and you hunt where they are, maybe. Maybe not. Everyone will eat a tag at some point. Some, more than others. I have yet to kill a mature deer with a bow. Because I have not hunted where they live? No. Because they are smarter than an immature deer/hunter? Yes. You won't just pick up the hottest, smartest bikini on the beach just because she is there and you have been thereathousand times.( I challenge those who think they can.)

LT

GMATT - so are you saying that two different hunters, hunting the same property, will always have the same results?

No. I'm saying two SIMILAR hunters......hunting the same property.....will quite likely have the same results.