Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
03-17-2008, 01:12 PM
#21
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
ORIGINAL: Germ
By chance could you post what you do? I would love to know
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher
Same reason as for any head; not keeping them sharp. Montecs are known for coming from the factory less than optimally sharp. I do quite a bit of work on mine when I get them out of the box but when they're done they make a scalpel look dull.
ORIGINAL: ACLakey
What are the reasons you have seen poor blood trails with the Montec?
What are the reasons you have seen poor blood trails with the Montec?
03-17-2008, 01:38 PM
#22
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
Both my brother and I have had similar results using this head. I stopped after 2 waisted deer and finished the year not loosing another after switching back to thunderheads. Both my brother and I hunt aggresivlly and this head can't be used that way, it's more of a target practise head. As long as deer comes up and stand broadside at 20 yards, this is a good head.
I'd be among the list of people who didn't like them. I shot one twice and it still ran off farther than I could find it. With the thunder head even with poor shots deer don't go far. Those that like them blame poor performance on bad shots to which I say, Ya, what's your point?I can kill a deer with a 22, but why should I. A G5 isn't a 22 but it's no 7mm. either.
I'd be among the list of people who didn't like them. I shot one twice and it still ran off farther than I could find it. With the thunder head even with poor shots deer don't go far. Those that like them blame poor performance on bad shots to which I say, Ya, what's your point?I can kill a deer with a 22, but why should I. A G5 isn't a 22 but it's no 7mm. either.
03-17-2008, 01:45 PM
#23
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
Well 16 deer shot and only do I did not see go down, the other two were poor shots, no issues with the trail.
I have shot them Qrt too[:-], away and broadside.
I have shot them Qrt too[:-], away and broadside.
03-17-2008, 02:55 PM
#24
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
ORIGINAL: Germ
By chance could you post what you do? I would love to know
By chance could you post what you do? I would love to know
Here's a good source for hones and sharpening materials.
http://www.woodcraft.com/depts.aspx?...p;leftnav=true
03-17-2008, 03:01 PM
#25
Join Date: Mar 2008
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
I havent had any problems with the Montec yet. If it is gonna mess with your head and eventually your shooting maybe you should try the striker then I use the Montec but have also heard great things about the striker from sites and such.
03-17-2008, 03:06 PM
#26
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher
Basically I knock all the machining marks off of them with something on the order of a 600 grit diamond stone, then remove the 600 grit marks with a finer stone down to 1200 diamond grit then keep doing the same all the way down to a smooth, hard white ceramic stone at 2000 grit (and if you're really into it you could go down to an 8000 grit waterstone.) You put less and less pressure on the finshing stone with each stroke and only make one stroke per facet when finishing until you've got the facets polished to a mirror finish. Then I strop with paper (3x5 index card works good). When finished they'll cut hairs in half along my arm without having to touch skin. The stones for doing this are prohibitively expensive so I wouldn't suggest anyone plan on buying Montecs and the stones to do this. I already happened to have the stones (for honing triggers) so it wasn't a big investment to get them sharp, other than time (and it takes upward of 1/2 hour per head sometimes). Most would be better off just buying a head that's already sharp like the Hellrazor and be done with it, or going with replaceable blades.
Here's a good source for hones and sharpening materials.
http://www.woodcraft.com/depts.aspx?DeptID=1021&leftnav=true
ORIGINAL: Germ
By chance could you post what you do? I would love to know
By chance could you post what you do? I would love to know
Here's a good source for hones and sharpening materials.
http://www.woodcraft.com/depts.aspx?DeptID=1021&leftnav=true
They're great flying, sturdy broad heads. I will use them againthis year along with two blade Rages.
03-17-2008, 03:36 PM
#27
Fork Horn
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Klamath Falls, Or
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
Thanks for the replies. I have used wet/dry sand paper starting at 400gr, then 1000gr then 2000gr paper. Puts a miror finish on them for sure, but I found the 600gr finish cuts better...maybe it is just me, but I can't get the 2000gr finish to cut any test material well.
03-17-2008, 03:37 PM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Warsaw,MO
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
A buddy of mine was using montecs and he shot a nice buck and he had a poor bloodtrail. He said he shot it good, but he never found the deer. He switched to a rage 3 blade and hasen't had a problem since.
03-17-2008, 03:46 PM
#30
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2008
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RE: Montec and Poor Blood Trails??
the g5 montecs were a broadhead i was considering, and read tons of revies on them, many great, though suprisingly more negatives than most broaheads I read about. So that quickly ended my consideration of them, I use muzzy 3 blade 100gr, the only other broadhead I'm considering is a 2 blade rage.