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mobow 03-17-2008 06:51 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: ducsauce

Heres a video of the 2 blade rage opening on impact. (Its the one on the left) http://www.ragebroadheads.com/rageVideo.html

Heres my question. Why would someone want to use the 3 blade when they can buy a 2 blade that has a bigger cutting diameter? Mobow, what made you decide?
The 2 blade may have a bigger cutting diameter, but the 3 blade has more cutting SURFACE. ;)

Ok, let's say, for easy math sake, a deer is 10" wide. A 2 blade head, 2" cutting diameter.......each blade is 1" long, for a cutting surface of 20".

Now take a 3 blade. Only 1 1/2" diameter, but each blade is then .75" long......75 x 3 = 2.25 2.25 x 10 = 22.5. And, you have the added advantage of another blade slicing through there, possibly hitting an artery you may have missed otherwise.

Man, my head hurts....:D Now, while all I just mentioned is true...You wanna know why I shot 3 blade and not 2? We were out of the 2 blades.....;):D

WesternMdHardwoods 03-17-2008 06:59 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 
OK I got a question?? When the blades do fully deploy,what stops the blades from closing back up if say they hit a rib?

I am sure they are more difficult to close back up then just simply pushing on the blade right??? I dont know, just wondering?

mobow 03-17-2008 07:01 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 
For the blades to close, they would need to be pushed forward, toward the tip, and in. Shoot, I can hardly close them when I'm trying to. There's just no way they can possibly close up when zipping through a deer. Just can't. They're constantly being pushed rearward.

Buck Magnet 03-17-2008 07:04 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 
I know the Snypers I used were set-up so the blades could "pivot" around to help avoid full contact on a rib shot.

As far as the thread goes, there are good and bad for both fixed and mechanicals. Yes, a G5 Montec will be less prone to malfunction, but the rate of mechanical malfuction is very slim. Some guys would just rather not risk it, others think the large cutting diameter of the mech. out weighs the slightly higher risk of malfunction. In the end, its personal friggin choice and the big key is putting the broadhead where it needs to be.

I suggest everybody take a day off and go walk in the woods, this place has been too damn touchy lately. I never know what I am getting when I log in.... am I logging in to HNI or "the other site"?:eek::eek::eek:

Finch 03-17-2008 07:12 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: mobow


ORIGINAL: ducsauce

Heres a video of the 2 blade rage opening on impact. (Its the one on the left) http://www.ragebroadheads.com/rageVideo.html

Heres my question. Why would someone want to use the 3 blade when they can buy a 2 blade that has a bigger cutting diameter? Mobow, what made you decide?
The 2 blade may have a bigger cutting diameter, but the 3 blade has more cutting SURFACE. ;)

Ok, let's say, for easy math sake, a deer is 10" wide. A 2 blade head, 2" cutting diameter.......each blade is 1" long, for a cutting surface of 20".

Now take a 3 blade. Only 1 1/2" diameter, but each blade is then .75" long......75 x 3 = 2.25 2.25 x 10 = 22.5. And, you have the added advantage of another blade slicing through there, possibly hitting an artery you may have missed otherwise.

Man, my head hurts....:D Now, while all I just mentioned is true...You wanna know why I shot 3 blade and not 2? We were out of the 2 blades.....;):D
That actually makes sense. So I guess you have to decide if you want a bigger entrance/exit or a bigger cut surface area once the arrows enters the body?

What if I was aiming at a turkeys head? Wouldn't I rather have the larger diameter blade just in case I was off a bit with my aim?

mobow 03-17-2008 07:14 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 
Well duc, that would be a logical conclusion. BUT, for a mechanical to work..You gotta hit 'em w/ the ferrule part of the head anyway. If you're gonna head shoot turkeys, look at the guillotine or the new one from Magnus.

I am, however, a big fan of cutting as big a hole in dem birds as you can.

Germ 03-17-2008 07:14 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: Buck Magnet

I know the Snypers I used were set-up so the blades could "pivot" around to help avoid full contact on a rib shot.

As far as the thread goes, there are good and bad for both fixed and mechanicals. Yes, a G5 Montec will be less prone to malfunction, but the rate of mechanical malfuction is very slim. Some guys would just rather not risk it, others think the large cutting diameter of the mech. out weighs the slightly higher risk of malfunction. In the end, its personal friggin choice and the big key is putting the broadhead where it needs to be.

I suggest everybody take a day off and go walk in the woods, this place has been too damn touchy lately. I never know what I am getting when I log in.... am I logging in to HNI or "the other site"?:eek::eek::eek:
Best post entire thread, RESPECT

davidmil 03-17-2008 07:37 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

What's your goal when you shoot at a deer, Greg? Double-lung?

If so.....don't critique this one;)

When his leg is back in it's regular position (when he was standing).....that green dot you put in there is ON HIS SHOULDER.



This is abosolutely ludicrous.:D
Too far back. And if his leg was back you wait one more step. Well really, you already missed the best step. LOL So it's what, your first or second year of bowhunting when this buck was killed and you alone have all the answers. You live in a target rich environment. You buggered up several deer last year, and you're already to tell Greg how to kill a deer? Come on. Give it a rest GMMAT. As someone on this site told me once, "You aren't as smart as you think you are". LOL This new found love broadhead of yours may indeed be fine. The whole in the one picture is obviously a glancing blow. It really doesn't count.Your shot on the buck is far enough back and low enough to almost be a bad shot by the time it got to the other side.

Finch 03-17-2008 07:50 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: mobow

BUT, for a mechanical to work..You gotta hit 'em w/ the ferrule part of the head anyway. If you're gonna head shoot turkeys, look at the guillotine or the new one from Magnus.

I am, however, a big fan of cutting as big a hole in dem birds as you can.
Doh, I knew that.:D I had the gulliotine in my head when I asked that question. Silly me.
Thanks Mo

Rob/PA Bowyer 03-17-2008 08:05 PM

RE: THINKING RAGE
 

ORIGINAL: davidmil


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

What's your goal when you shoot at a deer, Greg? Double-lung?

If so.....don't critique this one;)

When his leg is back in it's regular position (when he was standing).....that green dot you put in there is ON HIS SHOULDER.



This is abosolutely ludicrous.:D
Too far back. And if his leg was back you wait one more step. Well really, you already missed the best step. LOL So it's what, your first or second year of bowhunting when this buck was killed and you alone have all the answers. You live in a target rich environment. You buggered up several deer last year, and you're already to tell Greg how to kill a deer? Come on. Give it a rest GMMAT. As someone on this site told me once, "You aren't as smart as you think you are". LOL This new found love broadhead of yours may indeed be fine. The whole in the one picture is obviously a glancing blow. It really doesn't count.Your shot on the buck is far enough back and low enough to almost be a bad shot by the time it got to the other side.
David, OMG did you read the thread? (edit: See link...lol) He took the heart out with this shot, the key words here as we had to explain to Jim, THE DEER WAS QUARTERED AWAY. (big text for your eyes). ;)

Sorry, I meant you should have read this thread first, you a thread behind...LOL http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2707422


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