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For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
02-26-2008 | 11:24 AM
#111
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RE: For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
ORIGINAL: PA Hardwoods
A- Freaking Men Bob. That is the point I was trying to get across earlier. The large part of the course is teaching us ethics and how to increase our chances of getting the non-hunting public to side with us as hunters. Only a small part of it is how to handle the bow safely. 98% of the classes I teach are hunters with atleast 20+ years of hunting experience and like I said before not one has said the course was useless. In fact I would love to be able to show you a video of the students trying to place the vitals of a deer in the proper place on the outline of a deer. You'd be amazed at the number of people that honestly don't have a clue where the liver, heart and lungs location is in a deer.
ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65
LOL.
Aside from what I have commented on before.
I would say that having bowhunting education courses mandatory could only help the perception of how non-hunting hunters (not PETA, they are a different bunch) perceive hunters. Which is important IMO.
LOL.
Aside from what I have commented on before.
I would say that having bowhunting education courses mandatory could only help the perception of how non-hunting hunters (not PETA, they are a different bunch) perceive hunters. Which is important IMO.
02-26-2008 | 11:32 AM
#112
Fork Horn
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RE: For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
ORIGINAL: Goodgrief
Badgergirl, it really is lost on you that this is a weapon that is designed to kill, and the state and federal Gov't are permitting if not promoting it's use on public lands. They will make sure you have the necessary training before they "allow" you to access "public" land with a weapon that kills. The more I hear you, I know why it is "mandated" in some states. Sometimes the Gov't needs to protect it's citizens. Remember, you have "access" to public land legally, you may not use it, but in the states eyes, you have access. Wow.
Badgergirl, it really is lost on you that this is a weapon that is designed to kill, and the state and federal Gov't are permitting if not promoting it's use on public lands. They will make sure you have the necessary training before they "allow" you to access "public" land with a weapon that kills. The more I hear you, I know why it is "mandated" in some states. Sometimes the Gov't needs to protect it's citizens. Remember, you have "access" to public land legally, you may not use it, but in the states eyes, you have access. Wow.
I don't think I haveinsulted anyone yet (if I have it was not intended),so there is no reason for you resort to that.
02-26-2008 | 11:48 AM
#113
Giant Nontypical
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RE: For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
Analogy:
A big game bowhunter in NY must receive a minimum of 18 hours of training before he/she can legallyobtain a license to bowhunt big game. Zero training hours are required toobtain adriving license.
Hehehe.
A big game bowhunter in NY must receive a minimum of 18 hours of training before he/she can legallyobtain a license to bowhunt big game. Zero training hours are required toobtain adriving license.
Hehehe.
02-26-2008 | 11:51 AM
#114
Fork Horn
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RE: For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65
Analogy:
A big game bowhunter in NY must receive a minimum of 18 hours of training before he/she can legallyobtain a license to bowhunt big game. Zero training hours are required toobtain adriving license.
Hehehe.
Analogy:
A big game bowhunter in NY must receive a minimum of 18 hours of training before he/she can legallyobtain a license to bowhunt big game. Zero training hours are required toobtain adriving license.
Hehehe.
02-26-2008 | 12:20 PM
#117
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From: Howard PA USA
RE: For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
ORIGINAL: Goodgrief
PA, agreed on how far these courses have come in their depth. I don't know how old you are, but the classes nowaday are nothing like the classes back in the 70's. Back then, pure safety, don't hurt nobody.
ORIGINAL: PA Hardwoods
A- Freaking Men Bob. That is the point I was trying to get across earlier. The large part of the course is teaching us ethics and how to increase our chances of getting the non-hunting public to side with us as hunters. Only a small part of it is how to handle the bow safely. 98% of the classes I teach are hunters with atleast 20+ years of hunting experience and like I said before not one has said the course was useless. In fact I would love to be able to show you a video of the students trying to place the vitals of a deer in the proper place on the outline of a deer. You'd be amazed at the number of people that honestly don't have a clue where the liver, heart and lungs location is in a deer.
ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65
LOL.
Aside from what I have commented on before.
I would say that having bowhunting education courses mandatory could only help the perception of how non-hunting hunters (not PETA, they are a different bunch) perceive hunters. Which is important IMO.
LOL.
Aside from what I have commented on before.
I would say that having bowhunting education courses mandatory could only help the perception of how non-hunting hunters (not PETA, they are a different bunch) perceive hunters. Which is important IMO.
I am 30 and took my regular hunter ed course in the 80's but have taken kids I have coached to ones as recent as 2 years ago and yes they have changed quite a bit. And IMHO all for the better.
02-26-2008 | 12:28 PM
#118
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From: Midvale, Id USA
RE: For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
Four years ago I would have been against a mandatory class, as I had "completed" one when I was 12yrs old when I took my hunters education class (which breifly covered bow hunting). Four years ago, I wanted to archery hunt in Alaska and needed a state authorized bowhunters card to be able to do so. After a bit of initial grumblingI completed my course (in Idaho), I found that it was beneficial and informative. I was also able to ask those questions I was always wondering about that the instructor was either up on, or found out the answer to. Afterwards I felt it was a needed class for ALL BOWHUNTERS!
Even though I had archery hunted since I could pull back a bow (20+ years), there was still a few tricks to teach the old dog. The largest realization was seeing the education get to those who needed it. The class was filled with everybody from veteran hunters to novice beginners. (There wasthis father/sonattendies that had never even hunted at all, but wanted to give archery hunting atry as theywere sport shooting together at a range)
The largest advantage to a bow hunters class overyour general hunters education is that (obviously) you are weapons specific.The do's and don'tsof shot placement (among other things) is paramountin archery hunting, and something that is not generally taught in your basic hunters ed.
I personally see the need for manditory bowhunters ed, regardless of anyones "experience".I would even go as far as having a refresher course every 5 to 10 years.
Even though I had archery hunted since I could pull back a bow (20+ years), there was still a few tricks to teach the old dog. The largest realization was seeing the education get to those who needed it. The class was filled with everybody from veteran hunters to novice beginners. (There wasthis father/sonattendies that had never even hunted at all, but wanted to give archery hunting atry as theywere sport shooting together at a range)
The largest advantage to a bow hunters class overyour general hunters education is that (obviously) you are weapons specific.The do's and don'tsof shot placement (among other things) is paramountin archery hunting, and something that is not generally taught in your basic hunters ed.
I personally see the need for manditory bowhunters ed, regardless of anyones "experience".I would even go as far as having a refresher course every 5 to 10 years.
02-26-2008 | 01:14 PM
#120
Nontypical Buck
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From: North Carolina
RE: For or Against Mandatory Bowhunter Education
I did it back in NY when I was 12 or 13 and had to wait til I was 14 to get a BH license. There was a proficiency test at 20 yards, I did it with a recurve (this is before compounds were common). There was a written test too. I think all new hunters should do it before they hit the field.