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Situation Ethics????........2 Part Question .....**UPDATED WITH twils real life situation
#211
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BigJ71....You wrote that as a reply to me? I never said I would hop a fence, I also said, I wouldn't shoot. I did say "I" would recover that deer. It would not be left to rot, no way!
#212
ORIGINAL: Goodgrief
BigJ71....You wrote that as a reply to me? I never said I would hop a fence, I also said, I wouldn't shoot. I did say "I" would recover that deer. It would not be left to rot, no way!
BigJ71....You wrote that as a reply to me? I never said I would hop a fence, I also said, I wouldn't shoot. I did say "I" would recover that deer. It would not be left to rot, no way!
#214
Nontypical Buck
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From: Moravia NY USA
I asked a similar question back a few pages.
If you get 2 responces it will at least double mine
Steve
If you get 2 responces it will at least double mine

Steve
#215
I'd say within sight. But like I said, I would ALWAYS call before hand, and if I get rejected, call the DNR and see if he can help me. Then maybe the Local Sheriff's Office....If no one can legally help me, I would return and retrieve the deer on my own, facing the consequences if I am caught. If I couldn't see the deer from my property, I don'tknow ifI would take up after it. I'm not sure, I guess I would have to be in the situation to know for sure.
All your points are valid, andI agree with them,but they are also stretching it IMO. I see it as no different than speeding. By speeding, you are endagering the lives of others on the road, which in a way, is worse than walking onto someone's farm and retrieving a deer you shot.
All your points are valid, andI agree with them,but they are also stretching it IMO. I see it as no different than speeding. By speeding, you are endagering the lives of others on the road, which in a way, is worse than walking onto someone's farm and retrieving a deer you shot.
#216
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
I'd say within sight.
I'd say within sight.
#217
ORIGINAL: BigJ71
So what makes the land within sight LESS less important to the owner from land where the deer fell that say, you couldn't see it? In other words...Why stop at "within sight", what's the difference?
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
I'd say within sight.
I'd say within sight.
(before I get taken out back and beat, that was a joke[8D]. Some comic relief, if you will)
#218
No difference, I'd just feel more comfortable about trespassing to get my deer if I KNEW it was down and where it was. I know it is legally wrong, but I would loose more sleep by leaving a deer to rot than walking across some guy's farm.
I speed, dont use crosswalks, and if the need arises, would trespass to put a dead deer to good use.
Another random question, Do you have a problem with someone keeping a deer to clean it if they hit it with their truck? Against the law here, but nothing wrong with it in my eyes. I know people who have done this, and got a LOT of good meat,and kudos to them IMO.
I guess I just don't view all laws and infractions as being equal, call me a hypocrit.[&:]
I speed, dont use crosswalks, and if the need arises, would trespass to put a dead deer to good use.
Another random question, Do you have a problem with someone keeping a deer to clean it if they hit it with their truck? Against the law here, but nothing wrong with it in my eyes. I know people who have done this, and got a LOT of good meat,and kudos to them IMO.
I guess I just don't view all laws and infractions as being equal, call me a hypocrit.[&:]
#219
TEmbry, I don't want you to think I wasn't going to answer the rest of your question, I just wanted to keep the two points separate.
As far as the speeding is concerned, I believe (and the law does too) there is a difference. In one instance you're going a few MPH over the posted limit and you get a ticket. You're not putting anyone else in danger, you're just going over the limit. The other instance you are speeding down the road at a high rate of speed. This carries a much stiffer penalty because you are at this point putting others lives in danger. It's serious, it's stupid,it's reckless and I have no sympathy for those who get punished for doing it.
Trespassing on the other hand can't be measured by a number (part of why I asked the question you so graciously answered) because there is no "scale" to go by. These laws were put into place to secure our basic rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and I take them very seriously because unlike speeding there is no way to determine it's extent.
If someone issnooping aroundon the fringe of your property, you have no IDEA why they're there, theycouldbe looking for a dead deer....they could be looking to do you harm.Trespassing laws protect an INDIVIDUAL person and allows them the right to take as many measures as the law allows to be secure on their property and dwelling.
Big difference.
As far as the speeding is concerned, I believe (and the law does too) there is a difference. In one instance you're going a few MPH over the posted limit and you get a ticket. You're not putting anyone else in danger, you're just going over the limit. The other instance you are speeding down the road at a high rate of speed. This carries a much stiffer penalty because you are at this point putting others lives in danger. It's serious, it's stupid,it's reckless and I have no sympathy for those who get punished for doing it.
Trespassing on the other hand can't be measured by a number (part of why I asked the question you so graciously answered) because there is no "scale" to go by. These laws were put into place to secure our basic rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and I take them very seriously because unlike speeding there is no way to determine it's extent.
If someone issnooping aroundon the fringe of your property, you have no IDEA why they're there, theycouldbe looking for a dead deer....they could be looking to do you harm.Trespassing laws protect an INDIVIDUAL person and allows them the right to take as many measures as the law allows to be secure on their property and dwelling.
Big difference.
#220
ORIGINAL: BigJ71
Trespassing laws protect an INDIVIDUAL person
Trespassing laws protect an INDIVIDUAL person

Im out, you make solid points, half of whichI agree with,but I personally dont see it the exact same way. Idk if I could deal with leaving a deer to rot that I can see laying within sight.[&:]











