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RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

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ORIGINAL: MichiganWhitetails74

Hey guys...Trespassing on private land is just bad and I wouldn't want it ifI was a largeland owner...

However..

Sometimes we're faced with property owned my city, government, or other....and it is available to us because it may be near where we hunt. If you new the area held Monster would you slip in....Not when you were 16 and young and dumb....would you do it now if you felt it was low risk?

ask for permission in this scenario ....

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

Let's say you shoot this monster buck will you are tresspassing. Know you have to come up with a story on how you got him. What should be a great accoplishment(sp?) inyour hunting career is now tainted. Not the way I would like to get it done.

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

Ok lets stir it up and think about different scenarios. 1. You have permission to hunt a small piece of property(10 acres)and you are very happy about that and dont want for anything more. This property is adjacent to a much larger unobtainable, uninhabited, landlocked from entry, undeveloped, generally unused piece of property. In the off season while scouting, do you venture on to this property to better hunt your property? Would this be ethical? Is this any better than actually hunting it? 2. Same property. During the season you shoot a doe and it runs onto the larger property. Do you, without permission, go and look for your deer? If you do, is this trespassing? Is it ok? What about if it was 160" bruiser? Just wondering where everyones' moral limits are. I'm not looking to hijack and dont even expect anyone to answer, just figured I'd get everyone thinking a little.

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

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I am not trying to hijack the thread, but if the land is not posted would you consider that trespassing.

Depends on the state. In NY, property is considered posted and you need permission except for unimproved vacant (vague description) land.
Other states are different.

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1. You have permission to hunt a small piece of property(10 acres)and you are very happy about that and dont want for anything more. This property is adjacent to a much larger unobtainable, uninhabited, landlocked from entry, undeveloped, generally unused piece of property. In the off season while scouting, do you venture on to this property to better hunt your property? Would this be ethical? Is this any better than actually hunting it?

Again, depends on the laws in your state. Intent does not matter. If it is trespassing by law, it is unethical.

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2. Same property. During the season you shoot a doe and it runs onto the larger property. Do you, without permission, go and look for your deer? If you do, is this trespassing? Is it ok? What about if it was 160" bruiser?

Again - depends on your laws. In NY, you have no legal right to recover. If it is considered posted, you don't go without permission - which you arrange the rules of BEFORE you need to. And it makes not 1 bit of difference if it is a doe fawn or a 200"" buck - same effort should be made to recover either. This means determining prior to ever loosing an arrow if you will be able to legally recover.

Steve

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

Wow...didn't think I would get this many posts on this thread...I don't want to give the impression I'm a violator because I'm not...I would ask for permission...However if a 150 + was 3 feet on the other side of a barb wired fence...I would shoot...thats just me...I'm in my stand on my property....its 3 feet...thats just meeeeee...!! Its a 150 class....its not like I have pre conceptions about the hunt

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

Just for discussion: if 3 ft is ok, why not 30ft? 60ft? 90Ft?
Where is the line where it is not ok?
Mine is theproperty line - if I have pre arranged recovery rights should I need them.

Steve

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

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ORIGINAL: Gundeck

Not a chance. I have a neighbor who is a jerk to all of us around him. Lost a nice doe this year after she ran onto his property. No chance she livedthe way she was bleedingwhen she crossed the fenceline. No chance of getting permission, so I am sure the corpse is in his back woods somewhere. My only consolation was the coyotes had a couple days of food. I am sure I could have gotten in and out without his knowledge, but the law is the law.

Here in Maryland, you are legally permitted to followa blood trail onto any property WITHOUT the landowner's consent, as long as you are not carrying a weapon.

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

For me to tresspass would be like cheating in the only thing I'm good at. It just doesn't make sense. I know I don't have the urge because I would take our 160 acres over any 160 within miles of our QDMA zone but it still just doesn't make sense. I don't know how I could live with it. Half the good feeling comes after its done with, and how could you do that when you know you cheated and you would then have to lie to your freinds.

RE: Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)

gonna have to go with no on this one. I tend to try to not hunt public land close to private property to be prevent accidental tresspassing as well as being tempted to the dark side.