Trespassing in pursute of a monster (Poll)
 

Hey guys...Trespassing on private land is just bad and I wouldn't want it ifI was a largeland owner...

However..

Sometimes we're faced with property owned my city, government, or other....and it is available to us because it may be near where we hunt. If you new the area held Monster would you slip in....Not when you were 16 and young and dumb....would you do it now if you felt it was low risk?

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It depends... If it was an area that I used to be able to hunt and was taken over for unreasonable reasons then yes I would do it. if someone bought it then no if you snooze you loose... when I was younger I did do it... got within 20 yards of a 160" 12 point and missed... so I felt it was a sign so I never did do it again. now I stick to private land all to myself.

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Where I live, there is no public land to hunt, everything is privately owned. Lots of big estates or horse farms on big(30+) acreage plots that dont get used for anything other than being obnoxiously rich. I have a few spots that i have permission to hunt that back up to or border properties like this. I always stay on my piece but if it becomes apparent through plenty of time and scouting that an adjacent property is not being used I dont have a problem bleeding in, IF I HAVE A REASON. I will add, that I always end up asking permission.

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No .... but I would try to lure that MONSTER over to where I can legaly hunt him.

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Wouldn't even consider it.

Tresspassing is trespassing, no matter the reason. The consequenses will be the same regardless.

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Gotta agree with ya there man, its just not worth it!

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Tresspassing is one of the sins that gives ALL hunters a blackeye. I would never consider doing it and would never condone it being done.

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I wouldn't want someone to do it to me so I don't do it to others.

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Low risk? is this kinda like kinda illegal? one thing I've learned is illegal is illegal, and maybe unlikely to get in trouble, or let off with a warning etc....though if possible, they can throw the book at you, and this is the world we live in. So trying ot get permission is the only way to go, otherwise, sorry, find a way to get that big boy on your property. I wish we lived in a more personal world, but we don't plain and simple, people get lawyers, laws are laws. I'm not a landowner just yet, but have plenty of problems elswhere with trespassers on leases etc....and when I do become a landowner, anyone caught trespassing, is getting busted! no excuses, it'll be posted and the warnings present.

The only time I've heard people consider is when youre hunting a property line and that buck is just on the other side of the fence.....though I'd say wait for him to jump onto your property, because if i caught someone shooting a deer on my side of the fence, I'd be taking that buck.

So my thoughts to you what's the law? penalities? fines? jailtime? is it worth it?

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Hell no! To me its not really "earning" the buck if i go and take it off someone elses land. for example.. i knew this one guy in high school who was LOADED. before he went to college he wanted a big screen tv but his parents wouldnt get him one. instead of getting a job and working his tail of for something he wanted, he went and sold weed and coke. Hes a low life and doesnt care about values and morals. I would rather not shoot a deer than tresspass for something thats not mine. just my 2 cents

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"Risk" has nothing to do with it.
If you do it, you are scum and a poacher - nothing else.
Would some of those who voted yes please tell why being a conditional poacher is ok with them?

Steve

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I would ask for permission. If it was denied I would stay the hell out!

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Been in that situation in Kentucky, and just watched the Big Boy walk away. It really hurt my feelings but part of hunting is ethics and respect for others property. I hate hearing the lame excuse from hunters that say "I didn't know where the boundries were" I say do your homework before going into the woods! Just my 2 cents worth.

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NO I couldn't do it just because I would go BONKERS if I found some one on my land. I know my neighbors all fairley well and I would either ask or try and lure that BIg MOMBA-JAMBA in my direction.

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The mans got a point!!!

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If you've ever been trespassed upon, you guys that would sneak onto the private would never do it. Trespassing is illegal, no matter what the circumstances are. Whoever the hell said "if the land was taken over for unreasonable reasons" is the reason why hunters get a bad name. What exactly is an unreasonable reason? The land is now private, end of story.

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Heck no! I would try and get permission and if they said no then i would try and lure him onto my land.

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I am faced with situations similar to this all the time. I hunt such small parcels the butt up against neighbors that crossing over and not even knowing it is easy. I do have a couple of pieces that I know where the big boys bed but can't get there due to it being on another piece. I try to get permission, but I just can't bring myself to go over there without it. It's just not worth it.

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x2

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I can't believe people would vote yes on this poll

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I would like most everyone ask for premission if denied then stay out and try to lure this "monster" over the fence but in a legal manner. I know as a land owner I would not like someone tresspass on me.

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If I had enough smoke bombs (the good kind) I might think about trespassing.:D

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This thread is pointless, it is advocating breaking a very significant law[>:]

How many that voted yes....also own land? Very few....

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I'm surprised at some of the names on that list of yes votes too. I'm aslo noticing they are not coming forth either. I'm sure if they owned land and caught someone after their monster, they'd think differently. What do you think yes voters?

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Guilty of voting yes.....


hit the wrong button...

I agree with Txjourneyman.

And If I see a Monster on another property, it is most likely on a property boardering my familys, so I could get permission to slip in, without consequence.

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No...if I were a land owner I would not want someone to do it to me...so I will not do it to anyone. I WOULD NOT do it.

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No, and I have the exact situation every year... but wouldn't ever tresspass& hunt it.

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Not a chance. I have a neighbor who is a jerk to all of us around him. Lost a nice doe this year after she ran onto his property. No chance she livedthe way she was bleedingwhen she crossed the fenceline. No chance of getting permission, so I am sure the corpse is in his back woods somewhere. My only consolation was the coyotes had a couple days of food. I am sure I could have gotten in and out without his knowledge, but the law is the law.

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Questions of this nature have be beaten to death on here many times in the past.While given the situation described if the adjoining land is not posted I am going on it if it is in a desolate area,if it is an area that is not desolate I am asking the land owner for permission.If denied I will not set foot on it.
Now before the ethics police jump on my back about desolate versus not desolate I would suggest you save your breath.I am completely comfortable with my values,ethics,morals etc.The same person who says they wont set foot on private property spliced an extra TV cable hookup in their existing line or claims things on their taxes that aren't on the up and up or denies their wife basic living necessities so they can purchase thenew this or new that.Only each one of us knows if we are living our lives in accord with doing things right as it relates to the things that are really important!
Me setting foot on land that most people don't have the stamina to get to and is miles from the closest building or residence and is unposted doesn't exactlyput my face on the wall of the post office.In my state I havn't broken a law if the land is unimproved,if it is not posted I can enter it,until requested not to by the land owner.
We have significant amounts of mountain land that has been and continues to be purchased up by the Department of environmental protection,then they post it heavily.In many instances it is extremely desolate and the signs say no entry for any reason.Try that on for size,your tax dollars have helped to purchase rugged mountain land and you can't set foot on it for any reason.Your tax dollars bought it,it comes off the tax rolls and no one can use it.Welcome to New York State!

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+1. Thanks tsoc. For fear of ostracization and massive lambasting I did not defend my original post(ok I'm a ***** meow). But you said exactly what I wanted to say. Welcome to New York State!

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Ask permision or dont gripe when you get shot or put in jail. Im so sick of people treaspassing on my land, i have no sympathy for low life trespasser. Illegal is illegal. There is no shade of gray. Im very glad Texas has beefed up its trespassing a poaching laws.

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I know where there is a monster buck but it is on federal property and posted. I am a federal employee, but there is no hunting allowed there. I know other military bases open their land up to hunters, but not this one.

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I am a landowner and work in conjunction with two other land owners around my place. We post our land. We have no choice here. During rifle season, if we dont, we get guys shooting towards our homes and from off the roadways. When I come across private property I respect it and stay the heck out, no matter how big of a buck lives there.

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x2!!

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Only if it was to feed my family [8D]

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I live in NY as well and what you say is techically true.
However, I will not go where I do not have permission to be, so whether or not a property is considered "unimproved" is of no bearing to me.
Also the remoteness or accesibility of a property has NOinput on someones legal right to be there.
You have permission or you don't - this is as black or white as it gets.

Steve

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As I stated earlier I am not asking for yours or anyone else's opinion,technically the law is on my side and that is good enough for me and has to be good enough for any one else!
I am a partner in a business and I wont take a stamp from the business without paying for it,or a ream of paper home without paying for it.I would suggest that from an honesty perspective most folks would not come close to the standards I hold myself to.I could say any thing in a setting like this and who would be the wiser! I am telling the truth if you don't care for it,try to imagine how little that means to me!

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And I was just outlining my limits -same as you.
I don't agree with the "unimproved" clause - leaves room for abuse (not accusing anyone).
That's way I go a step beyond - permission or I don't belong there.

Steve

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I do hope no one misunderstood my earlier post about trespassing with the use of good smoke bombs. It was clearly a joke.

I would seek permission always.. and always have.

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I am not trying to hijack the thread, but if the land is not posted would you consider that trespassing.