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Old 02-10-2008 | 11:34 AM
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I've always shot/used muzzy 3 blade 100gr, and am considering the montec g5 100gr, and possibly the rage 2blade 100gr, maybe the NAP razorbak 100gr spinning technology. I like the 1 piece design of the g5 over the muzzy, but I like the chisel point on the muzzy vs the g5's cut on contact. I'm skeptical of mechanicals, though the rage's are all the rage it seems. I also don't know about 2" cutting on a elk etc...what happens when that hits bone etc? Does anyone prefer 1 of these to another? Also does anyone shoot multiple broadheads for different types of big game? elk? deer? antelope? bear?I really want to increase my downrange accuracy and consistently and wonder if muzzy's since they're not a 1 peice are limited in their precision? Also does a mechanical react less to wind since its closed/smaller contact area when closed? Some help choosing please?
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Old 02-10-2008 | 11:48 AM
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Like you, I went from the good old reliable Muzzy to the G5 Montec about a year ago - and then tried the Rage right before hunting season and wound up killing two mule deer bucks with them. Several of my hunting buddies killed animals with the Montec, and they seem to work great. Not sure if they kill any better than the regular three blade Muzzy, but they fly real well and are as close to indestrucable as you can get. Don't get this BH if you don't do well at sharpening things, though.

I was very favorably impressed with the Rage 2 blade. I got a pass through on buck #1 with a hard quartering away shot. Buck #2 was hit just behind the near shoulder broadsideand it stopped against hard bone in the off shoulder. Both bucks were able to go about 50 yards before massive blood loss caught up with them. I'm thinking these would kill an elk real well with good shot placement. But I plan to carry both the Montec and the Rage in my quiver - since they shoot the same out of a tuned bow.
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Old 02-10-2008 | 11:52 AM
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Don't get this BH if you don't do well at sharpening things, though.

What's BH? BS?

Thanks for the advice.
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Old 02-10-2008 | 11:53 AM
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BH = broadhead
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Old 02-10-2008 | 11:57 AM
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One thing I consider is that the only time I can picture a muzzy failing is when you make a bad shot, perhaps because wind caught it more than others, or maybe just made a bad shot, the others however, I can picture losing an animal because the BH didn't do as planned, I can see a G5 or Rage hitting a shoulder/bone and stopping and off the animal goes. And 1 thought is hunt until this happens, though I never want to lose an animal or miss a chance because the broadhead failed. This is one reason I'm hesitant to switch.
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Old 02-10-2008 | 11:59 AM
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I have shot the razorbaks for the past two years with real good results, but i am considering switching to something a little more affordable, they are like 35 bucks for a 3 pack. I have been considering the Montecs as well, but i'm not so confident in my sharpening abilities, G5 has a video on thier site that shows the proper technique and it seems fairly fool proof. Just a question, why do you prefer the chisel point to the cut on contact? I used to shoot the muzzy 100s but I found the cut on contact designs to give much better penetration, just curious.

oh one more thing, "the rages are all the rage" cracked me up, I dunno if you did that on purpose or not.
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Old 02-10-2008 | 12:09 PM
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rages are all the rage.....just a punn I thought I'd make. haha.

The chisel point is designed/suppose to go through bone, vs. cut on contact which would Kinda dig into bone and stop, my father shoots the razorbacks, always killed great, I love the idea of cut on contact, i see them passing through more easily, though I worry if they hit bone and stop. I'm also not worried about sharpening a G5, saw the video as well.

I once spoke to an old bowhunter, kinda an old wisemen type, that as I had suspected, didn't like ultra sharp broadheads, he equated this to a surgeon's scapel, that a sharp cut is more apt to heal/stop bleeding since the 2 edges of the cut line up perfectly once they meet again, where as a less sharp would create more of a jagged cut, I had though of this myself prior to speaking to him and it only kinda reinformed there might be somethign to this idea. I still don't have a conclusion either way. Though I've never heard experts talk about this, only to say that you need ultrasharp broadheads! but why? dull or sharp, they're going through skin.
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Old 02-10-2008 | 01:22 PM
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Maybe he was referring to a somewhat serrated or "burr" edge as opposed to a very smooth edge. But generally sharper is better, IMO. Also, don't get too caught up in the "Bad to the Bone" slogan. Muzzys are great - don't get me wrong - but I would venture that a G5 Montec could make it through bone even easier than a Muzzy - and do it with all it's blades intact.
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Old 02-10-2008 | 01:40 PM
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ive been using the MX-3 and i love them...i have no problems with them passing thru and they are sharp out of the package.


i was considering either trying the G5, but i am gonna try the bunker busters from trophy ridge this spring on a bear or two.
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Old 02-10-2008 | 02:41 PM
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I think a montec made out of a solid piece of steel would actually go through a bone even better then a muzzy, which I would think is more likely to break up. As far as why sharper is better all you have to do is think about shaving. Ever cut yourself shaving? ever notice how hard it is to get it to stop bleeding? it is because the blade it so sharp and makes such a clean cut the blood can't clot well. A jagged cut will clot much better. This is why a sharp broadhead is so deadly, because a deer's lungs are nothing but air and billions of tiny blood vessels, and a nice clean cut through there will never clot in time. They start bleeding so fast that their blood pressure drops through the floor and they pass out, and peacefully die in their sleep as they bleed out.
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