What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
02-06-2008 | 05:20 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: TFOX
You will still be off much more than the pics with a peep.
You will still be off much more than the pics with a peep.
To me I would think it would "line up", but I have never shot with a peep. I know if I cant a little and my head changes, I shoot off target. I know it's because I am looking at the sight from a different angle.
02-06-2008 | 05:21 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr
Look how high up the body the "bullseye" is!!!! This is what I love about 3D targets (not really, I think it lures guys into shooting higher than they should). I hate the fact that on a 3D target, you are shooting at a 10 spot that is actually a few inches above where most hunters would normally aim on an animal, at least the in the Cervid class.
Atlas, shoot a couple groups from 35-40-45 yds, and then let's talk!!!! At 25 yds, you can do that, ante up the yardage, and things start getting a little hairier. While to some extent I'll agree with you, I've shot groups with Blazers and Duravanes in a mixed batch, and had similar results with both, I don't think shooting something that weighs 50 extra grains is going to fly overly close once you get out a bit in range.
ORIGINAL: atlasman
Look how high up the body the "bullseye" is!!!! This is what I love about 3D targets (not really, I think it lures guys into shooting higher than they should). I hate the fact that on a 3D target, you are shooting at a 10 spot that is actually a few inches above where most hunters would normally aim on an animal, at least the in the Cervid class.
Atlas, shoot a couple groups from 35-40-45 yds, and then let's talk!!!! At 25 yds, you can do that, ante up the yardage, and things start getting a little hairier. While to some extent I'll agree with you, I've shot groups with Blazers and Duravanes in a mixed batch, and had similar results with both, I don't think shooting something that weighs 50 extra grains is going to fly overly close once you get out a bit in range.
That is where I aim,PERFECT double lung shot and puts them down QUICK and gives you the largest room for error.But that is off topic.
02-06-2008 | 05:22 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: Germ
Guys I think we are missing the peep aspect.
If a person with a peep cants his bow, I believe one will get results Atlas did. Being the peep aligns the sight.
If I tried this, being it do not use a peep, I would be looking at the sight from a different angle. If I cant my bow I shoot off of where I am aiming.
I think if one has a peep and they can look through it, one can pull the shot off.
Does that make sense? That is why I ask Atlas if he used a peep.
Guys I think we are missing the peep aspect.
If a person with a peep cants his bow, I believe one will get results Atlas did. Being the peep aligns the sight.
If I tried this, being it do not use a peep, I would be looking at the sight from a different angle. If I cant my bow I shoot off of where I am aiming.
I think if one has a peep and they can look through it, one can pull the shot off.
Does that make sense? That is why I ask Atlas if he used a peep.
Glad someone decided to think about it a little BEFORE calling me a liar..............big surprise who was the first to make that uninformed leap
02-06-2008 | 05:23 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: Germ
Well W-T-F do I know
To me I would think it would "line up", but I have never shot with a peep. I know if I cant a little and my head changes, I shoot off target. I know it's because I am looking at the sight from a different angle.
ORIGINAL: TFOX
You will still be off much more than the pics with a peep.
You will still be off much more than the pics with a peep.
To me I would think it would "line up", but I have never shot with a peep. I know if I cant a little and my head changes, I shoot off target. I know it's because I am looking at the sight from a different angle.
02-06-2008 | 05:24 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: TFOX
That is where I aim,PERFECT double lung shot and puts them down QUICK and gives you the largest room for error.But that is off topic.
ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr
Look how high up the body the "bullseye" is!!!! This is what I love about 3D targets (not really, I think it lures guys into shooting higher than they should). I hate the fact that on a 3D target, you are shooting at a 10 spot that is actually a few inches above where most hunters would normally aim on an animal, at least the in the Cervid class.
Atlas, shoot a couple groups from 35-40-45 yds, and then let's talk!!!! At 25 yds, you can do that, ante up the yardage, and things start getting a little hairier. While to some extent I'll agree with you, I've shot groups with Blazers and Duravanes in a mixed batch, and had similar results with both, I don't think shooting something that weighs 50 extra grains is going to fly overly close once you get out a bit in range.
ORIGINAL: atlasman
Look how high up the body the "bullseye" is!!!! This is what I love about 3D targets (not really, I think it lures guys into shooting higher than they should). I hate the fact that on a 3D target, you are shooting at a 10 spot that is actually a few inches above where most hunters would normally aim on an animal, at least the in the Cervid class.
Atlas, shoot a couple groups from 35-40-45 yds, and then let's talk!!!! At 25 yds, you can do that, ante up the yardage, and things start getting a little hairier. While to some extent I'll agree with you, I've shot groups with Blazers and Duravanes in a mixed batch, and had similar results with both, I don't think shooting something that weighs 50 extra grains is going to fly overly close once you get out a bit in range.
That is where I aim,PERFECT double lung shot and puts them down QUICK and gives you the largest room for error.But that is off topic.
Yea...........me too..........I thought the same thing when I read that but wanted to stay on topic.
02-06-2008 | 05:27 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
Ok, but what if you cant your bow and it is consistant? One starts of 45 degree and hold through the shot. Being one is looking through a peep would the string and pins not still line up?
BTW I am just trying to understand, being I do not have a peep. TFOX thanks for your help
BTW I am just trying to understand, being I do not have a peep. TFOX thanks for your help
02-06-2008 | 05:28 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
I didn't call you a liar. I said you weren't being entirely truthful. BS'ing us, maybe. Pulling our leg. Indulging in a flight of fancy. But I didn't call you a liar.
02-06-2008 | 05:31 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
I wasn't the first, nor did I accuse you of lying. I honestly DID think you exaggerated, though.
I just went in my basement and tried to duplicate the scenario. I owe you an apology (and I apologize). I got very similar results at 20 yds Only noticeable difference was the canted bow shot low.
I just went in my basement and tried to duplicate the scenario. I owe you an apology (and I apologize). I got very similar results at 20 yds Only noticeable difference was the canted bow shot low.
02-06-2008 | 05:32 PM
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: Arthur P
I didn't call you a liar. I said you weren't being entirely truthful. BS'ing us, maybe. Pulling our leg. Indulging in a flight of fancy. But I didn't call you a liar.
I didn't call you a liar. I said you weren't being entirely truthful. BS'ing us, maybe. Pulling our leg. Indulging in a flight of fancy. But I didn't call you a liar.
I wasn't talking about you.
So Arthur.........what are we doing differently that you hit7 FEET to the left and I stayed in the 10 ring. That is an incredible difference.
Did you think I kept my head straight up or something?