Considering it is now possible............does anyone think guys will be buying or using their own captive deer's semen and impregnating (free range) does on their property in hopes of producing some of these 2 year old bucks that are pushing 200"??


How much could an outfitter charge if he had enough land and money to change the genetics of the herd by introducing some stock genetics into the wild and producing rediculous bucks that are still being born in the wild and hunted fair chase.

I wouldn't doubt if that has already been done.

I certainly hope not. I prefer to hunt natural deer.

It's not wise to fool mother nature! [:-]

I don't care about top spots or record books. I've never measured a deer and don't care to. Each deer is himself. I look and say nice deer or great deerbut don't care to worry about cheaters and frauds. Life is too short. There will always be someone trying to beat any "System" that's in place so they can say Look at Me. Usually somewhere along the way they step on their wick or someone rats them out. TV and the QDM boys have brought this on us so you'll have to live with it. There will always be someone looking for the short cut to fame. And of course breeder bucks have been turned out to enhance a deer herd. I have no doubt of that.

Around here it wouldn't matter much, most of our deer don't reach two years old.

Mr Mill

QDMA has zero to do with your above post. Please post accurate information. Not doubting that it is being done, but lumping entire group and lableing them is , well stupid.

Atlas it's hard for me to believe the average hunter has done what you claim. There are so many varibles in the wild, would it even work?

WE should all support laws that make purposely releasing genetically Superior or domestically bred deer into wild a felony with huge fines mandatory.

Perhaps YOU don't give enough credit to the average hunter. We're a pretty amazing group. We've seen and done a lot of things. You don't have to be cute or a TV personnality to succeed and know a few things. In fact, probably many of us know more than the so called EXPERTS on TV. Yup, don't sell the average hunter short.

As far as QDM, I'm saying the CRAZE for bigger horns is what propelled QDM. That's what it's all about. NOT EVER do you here these guys talk about big mature healthy does. They only talk about them in terms of buck to doe ratio and thinning them out so they can get BIG MATURE BUCKS with BIG RACKS. THe biggest and most mature buck on the place might very well be an 8 point. We've seen it time and time again on these shows where a big 8 is the dominant critter on the field. When they shoot him they claim to be culling an inferior buck. What's inferior about him. He's the biggest and the bully on the block and the dominant critter. EXCEPT his horns are too small. It's all about horns to these guys, not the dominant creature. It's all about score. Survival of the fittest has nothing to do with it behind these fences.

Sorry David,
http://www.qdma.com/qdm/

He said "taint".

I have personnally seen a farm raised buck released into the wild to "enhance" the herd genetics. I argued with the person doing this. My arguments fell on deaf ears. I agree with Davilmil on this one. I don't care what the QDM guys are saying, thier actions speak much louder. Everything I have personally seen regarding "QDM" is all about bigger racks.