Are the record books "tainted" now??
01-30-2008, 07:42 AM
#21
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Think of the leeps and bounds Q.D.M. would make if planted food plots on all that wasted space thats now called golf courses?
Think of the leeps and bounds Q.D.M. would make if planted food plots on all that wasted space thats now called golf courses?
In my best "Bones" from Star trek voice.
Dammit Jim, you always have to go there!
01-30-2008, 07:44 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Southwest Ohio
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RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
To me, the record books are all about the animals and not the hunters. So no, I do not feel that they are tainted.
No matter what the top animals were killed with or whatever, if the mounts were coming to a show around me you can bet your last dollar I will be there to see them and I would be in awe of the animal. Couldn't care less about the hunter though.
No matter what the top animals were killed with or whatever, if the mounts were coming to a show around me you can bet your last dollar I will be there to see them and I would be in awe of the animal. Couldn't care less about the hunter though.
01-30-2008, 07:47 AM
#23
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RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d
The records are not tainted. Records are made so that others may break them. It doesn't diminish the success of the past. Be it a a camp record, a State record or an all time record, one can easily gage the previous achievement by the length of time it endured. As that window gets smaller (the length of time a record stands) on can see where Habitat, Genetics..etc contributed. This doesn't diminish a thing!
The records are not tainted. Records are made so that others may break them. It doesn't diminish the success of the past. Be it a a camp record, a State record or an all time record, one can easily gage the previous achievement by the length of time it endured. As that window gets smaller (the length of time a record stands) on can see where Habitat, Genetics..etc contributed. This doesn't diminish a thing!
01-30-2008, 07:51 AM
#24
Dominant Buck
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RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
Okay they added some length.
So your telling me that todays pros are approaching the greens with the same clubs the Trevino's and Nicklaus's used?
Are you telling me Square Grooves and better balls have not increased the play-ability of shots. (Drop and Stop).
Your saying new equipment is not more forgiving?
Is hitting in the rough in a non major as much of a penalty as those days?
the course setups have kept up with technology.....and they keep adjusting, even today.
So the new equipments benefits have effectively been neutralized by adding some length?
WOW I knew you said you didn't play anymore, I just didn't realize you had lost touch with the sport to this magnatude.
01-30-2008, 07:54 AM
#25
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
When Barry Bonds was accused of juicing they measured his head to see how muchlarger it is now. Steroids cause your head to grow.[
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Any expanding hat sizes in todays bow hunting world?
To some of you guys that should be a scary thought.
]Any expanding hat sizes in todays bow hunting world?
To some of you guys that should be a scary thought.
01-30-2008, 08:48 AM
#28
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RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
Oh Jeff I disagree with so many of your points..But I doubt anyone wants to hear it.
And Jim, Steroids do not make your head larger. HGH (Growth Hormone) does.
As for"Johnson" size..a quick explanation for all to learn from.
Once and for all: Steroids have 0 effect on a mans unit size. They shrink your "lemons" Temporarily.
If you are getting an excess amount of Lemon juice injected. Your body doesn't have to produce lemonaid.
It realizes this and shuts down production. Once you come-off the supplementary injections. Your body will gradually begin lemonaid production again.
Or so I've read..[&:]
And Jim, Steroids do not make your head larger. HGH (Growth Hormone) does.
As for"Johnson" size..a quick explanation for all to learn from.
Once and for all: Steroids have 0 effect on a mans unit size. They shrink your "lemons" Temporarily.
If you are getting an excess amount of Lemon juice injected. Your body doesn't have to produce lemonaid.
It realizes this and shuts down production. Once you come-off the supplementary injections. Your body will gradually begin lemonaid production again.
Or so I've read..[&:]
01-30-2008, 08:51 AM
#30
Nontypical Buck
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Location: Cenral Illinois
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RE: Are the record books "tainted" now??
ORIGINAL: muzzyman88
I pay attention to the records pretty closely. I don't think this "era" is tainted. Regardless of whether or not the deer has good nutrition and is allowed to live past 5.5 years of age, the hunter still has to hunt him. All the nutrition in the world isn't going to put that deer on the wall.
However, the growing number of rack factories, meaning the farms where they raise and genetically enhance deer for the sole purpose of selling them to ranches to increase the genetics of a herd, or, worse yet, for someone to pay huge dollars to come in and hunt is a real concern.
I pay attention to the records pretty closely. I don't think this "era" is tainted. Regardless of whether or not the deer has good nutrition and is allowed to live past 5.5 years of age, the hunter still has to hunt him. All the nutrition in the world isn't going to put that deer on the wall.
However, the growing number of rack factories, meaning the farms where they raise and genetically enhance deer for the sole purpose of selling them to ranches to increase the genetics of a herd, or, worse yet, for someone to pay huge dollars to come in and hunt is a real concern.
As far as the records being tainted now, I'm sure there are more 125" bucks that are being killed, but deer over 180" are still special, and over 200" just doesn't happen very often.