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atlasman 01-22-2008 02:03 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


They don't use drop aways either.
I don't remember saying (because I didn't) that they did. I don't know where this is coming from.
You have stated PLENTY of times that this factors into your decision making on equipment.........you want to shoot what the "best" are shooting (Same reason Nike drivers sell).......again, why you started with a Mathews I'm guessing ;)

You have given this reason specifically in the past as part of why you switched to a drop away..........yet you question the effectiveness of a WB by comparing it to top level target shooters. The same logic applies to your drop away.

Killer_Primate 01-22-2008 02:03 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Has this thread seriously gotten this far off track?

The point was to show that the WB is an accurate rest past 20 yards.

It was not posted saying that it is the most accurate rest on the market.

Jeff, you're absolutely right as I mentioned in PM last night. If it were that accurate, more pros would likely be shooting it.

However, and I feel like a damn broken record here, that is NOT the point of this thread. Yes, it was a spin off from the thread started two nights ago
[align=left]but I am not talking about competetive shooting or which rest is the most accurate. I'm saying that, although it was claimed that the WB is not accurate past 20 yards, it, in reality, IS.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]There is no "for the sake of argument" to be had here. Its very cut and dry.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]The hypothesis was that the WB would be accurate past 20 yards. I proved that. No arguments necessary.[/align][align=right][/align]




I can’t believe you’d say that the WB is the most accurate! Have you tried them all? Huh?

Man, you sound like a broken record…

Just playing man!


BigJ71 01-22-2008 02:05 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Killer_Primate

Hey bigJ,
Let me know when the next late night giveaway is!

Well, I'll start another round as soon as all the seasons are closed (pretty soon) but you're gonna have to stay up late...it's not called "BigJ's Late Night Giveaway" for nothing.:D

I got some good stuff this year so stay tuned!

atlasman 01-22-2008 02:10 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

Atlas and BigJ

Have you guys seen Bowtechs new arrow rest?

What do you guys think?

As has already been said..........it is not a new rest. Funny how some guys are coincidentally high on this rest all the sudden

My arrow fits loosely in my WB........not much but enough that the same loose fit would cause me to lose containment on the Hostage..........I set my bow on it's side across my shooting rail when I hunt and the last thing I want is the arrow banging around when I lift up my bow.

NAP has the same Idea...........but losing containment defeats the purpose IMO.

GMMAT 01-22-2008 02:13 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

You have given this reason specifically in the past as part of why you switched to a drop away..........yet you question the effectiveness of a WB by comparing it to top level target shooters. The same logic applies to your drop away.
My drop away is an example of a level of "mediocrisy" I'm able to live with in a hunting situation. Just like your hunting bow......my hunting bow.....and everything else (archery related) I hunt with. In Bruce's example.....it's what the race car drier is accepting when he gets in his family car.

Yes. the same logic applies to my drop away.

atlasman 01-22-2008 02:22 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

My drop away is an example of a level of "mediocrisy" I'm able to live with in a hunting situation. Just like your hunting bow......my hunting bow.....and everything else (archery related) I hunt with. In Bruce's example.....it's what the race car drier is accepting when he gets in his family car.

No, it's not.............I am not "accepting" mediocrity in my hunting rig because somebody else can drill X's in Vegas with a spring steel rest. They are 2 TOTALLY different worlds..........what is "best" for one is not "best" for the other (not to mention 99.9% of it is the person anyways). Using target gear in the woods would be stupid and an inferior choice..........even if it would serve you better at an indoor target shoot.


Yes. the same logic applies to my drop away.
You have said many times that you want to shoot what the "best" are shooting and used that as a reason for going to a drop away. Your logic in this thread contradicts what you have stood by in the past.

GMMAT 01-22-2008 02:31 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

You have said many times that you want to shoot what the "best" are shooting and used that as a reason for going to a drop away. Your logic in this thread contradicts what you have stood by in the past.
No. No it doesn't. The best archers in the world (target) shoot a certain type rest. For my target rig....I'm really interested in learning more about what they're shooting.....and I'll likely go with something along those lines (actually....just ordered one).

For my hunting rig....I look to the people I trust (fellow hunters that I trust) and I listen to their pros and cons on why they shoot what they do (on their hunting rigs). That's where I start looking. Luckily for me....I found a good one early on.....after a not so satisfying experience with another rest.

I don't care what anyone thinks of my choices. Why do you? And why would you care about mine?



Killer_Primate 01-22-2008 02:36 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Jeff,
I for one hate hearing about your annual bows, arrows, climbers, drop aways, stabilizers, rests, 3D targets, scent blocker and all the other crap you buy!
Because I’m jealous…

Paul L Mohr 01-22-2008 02:38 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
I didn't read all the replies, but I will say what I always say when this comes up. I am not a big fan of the WB rests, however they are no less accurate than any other rest that is set up properly. You can realistically shoot perfectly well with a correctly set up flipper rest. And there are some very impressive records that have been set to prove this.

The only advantage most rests give you from one design or model to another is either ease of use or set up. Most rests work perfectly fine when set right, the problem is some are harder to get that way.

Same thing goes for sights. Those fancy micro adjustable Spott Hog or whatever sights are not any more accurate than my 30 dollar generic three pin fiber optic sights are. They are just easier to fiddle with is all.

Paul



GMMAT 01-22-2008 02:40 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Killer....I started with NOTHING. I've only had 2 bows....2 climbers (mine and my son's)....1 drop away.....2 stabilizers....1 3D target.....and 1 scent blocker jacket!

We got guys doing that every year!

Seriously...I've just had to get a bunch of stuff in a short time. If you inventoried me v. some of these guys in here......lol....well....I've heard 40 stands mentioned in here, before. Add THAT up!

atlasman 01-22-2008 02:41 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

No. No it doesn't. The best archers in the world (target) shoot a certain type rest. For my target rig....I'm really interested in learning more about what they're shooting.....and I'll likely go with something along those lines (actually....just ordered one).

For my hunting rig....I look to the people I trust (fellow hunters that I trust) and I listen to their pros and cons on why they shoot what they do (on their hunting rigs). That's where I start looking. Luckily for me....I found a good one early on.....after a not so satisfying experience with another rest.
Then why compare the WB to what target archers shoot (like you did in this thread).



I don't care what anyone thinks of my choices.
Can't believe you typed that.........I have never seen someone try so hard to get into what he thinks is the "cool" or "in" crowd in my life.

Killer_Primate 01-22-2008 02:43 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
I hope you saw the fine print...

GMMAT 01-22-2008 02:45 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Killer....Yes I did...;)

There you go again, Atlas...

See ya.

Germ 01-22-2008 02:48 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Ok we have had in 2008

Location threadcheck
WB Thread Check

We need a good camo thread and we will have set a new record by Feb:D


Washington Hunter 01-22-2008 02:49 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Atlas, I have to admit, you're taking some of your comments to a place where they don't need to go.

Who's business is it but Jeff's as to why he chooses to shoot what he chooses to shoot? You don't need to throw your opinion of him or his decision making process out there for everybody, no matter how necessary you see it.

Its getting old pretty quick.

atlasman 01-22-2008 02:59 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Atlas, I have to admit, you're taking some of your comments to a place where they don't need to go.
It's the truth..........and when someone says one thing and then does another I think it should be mentioned.



Who's business is it but Jeff's as to why he chooses to shoot what he chooses to shoot?
No ones but his............until he draws everyone else into it.



You don't need to throw your opinion of him or his decision making process out there for everybody, no matter how necessary you see it.

Its getting old pretty quick.
So does hypocrisy.

8pt~Bowhunter 01-22-2008 03:01 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Atlas, I have to admit, you're taking some of your comments to a place where they don't need to go.

Who's business is it but Jeff's as to why he chooses to shoot what he chooses to shoot? You don't need to throw your opinion of him or his decision making process out there for everybody, no matter how necessary you see it.

Its getting old pretty quick.
I agree!

Atlas, Why do you care so muchabout Jeff's choice of equipment?


Washington Hunter 01-22-2008 03:05 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Atlas, I have to admit, you're taking some of your comments to a place where they don't need to go.
It's the truth..........and when someone says one thing and then does another I think it should be mentioned.



Who's business is it but Jeff's as to why he chooses to shoot what he chooses to shoot?
No ones but his............until he draws everyone else into it.



You don't need to throw your opinion of him or his decision making process out there for everybody, no matter how necessary you see it.

Its getting old pretty quick.
So does hypocrisy.
So mention it in a PM.

Start your own damn thread.

Keep your garbage comments [that have no relation to the discussion] out of my threads.

Please and thank you.


atlasman 01-22-2008 03:06 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: 8pt~Bowhunter


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Atlas, I have to admit, you're taking some of your comments to a place where they don't need to go.

Who's business is it but Jeff's as to why he chooses to shoot what he chooses to shoot? You don't need to throw your opinion of him or his decision making process out there for everybody, no matter how necessary you see it.

Its getting old pretty quick.
I agree!

Atlas, Why do you care so muchabout Jeff's choice of equipment?

Where did I mention anywhere in this thread even the slightest concern for what he shoots?

You guys need to read slower ;)

atlasman 01-22-2008 03:13 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

So mention it in a PM.
That's not a viable option with said member ;)



Start your own damn thread.
I didn't hijack your thread........you are crying to the wrong guy.



Keep your garbage comments [that have no relation to the discussion] out of my threads.

Please and thank you.
Truth=Garbage..........interesting.

Is someone forcing you to read this??

Washington Hunter 01-22-2008 03:18 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

So mention it in a PM.
That's not a viable option with said member ;)



Start your own damn thread.
I didn't hijack your thread........you are crying to the wrong guy.



Keep your garbage comments [that have no relation to the discussion] out of my threads.

Please and thank you.
Truth=Garbage..........interesting.

Is someone forcing you to read this??
Atlas...

I've asked nicely.

Just be an adult and respect that, please.

You remind me the the kid in third grade who would pick on the kid who cut in front of him in the lunch line in kindergarden.

I don't know what Jeff has done to piss you off that you feel the need to follow him around and attack his posts every chance you get, but its annoying... For everyone involved.

MeanV2 01-22-2008 03:18 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Humm??

Dan

Killer_Primate 01-22-2008 03:24 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
You go Washington hunter! Get'em...



Atlas, don't take that crap man- finish him!

Germ 01-22-2008 03:26 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Anyone know if I can get the WB in Tree stand camo?

OK OK I will go stand in the corner WH[X(]

MdDave 01-22-2008 03:26 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY.u guys are better than tv!!!!!

MeanV2 01-22-2008 03:27 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

Anyone know if I can get the WB in Tree stand camo?

OK OK I will go stand in the corner WH[X(]
LOL!!![8D]

Dan

Armybowhunter28 01-22-2008 03:27 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
I used to shoot a drop away for a long time and switched toa WB and my shot groups got a lot tighter after puting it on. I wont shoot with anything else.

Killer_Primate 01-22-2008 03:28 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
PHS

Post Hunting Syndrome

Madjac20 01-22-2008 03:41 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
200 years ago, were the native Americans setting around their campfire, after a big hunt, discussing the pro's and con's of "their archery" equipment?
I beleive any one piece of equipmentcan beas accurate as another, you the shooterare responsible for that.
Great post Wash.

atlasman 01-22-2008 03:42 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Just be an adult and respect that, please.
Wash....your thread went off line2 replies in (not because of me ;)). WhatI said was directly related to the current line of conversation........logic used to choose personal equipment.

I didn't see you crying about your thread when people were discussing golf.



I don't know what Jeff has done to piss you off that you feel the need to follow him around and attack his posts every chance you get, but its annoying... For everyone involved.
Are you joking??............because that is about the exact opposite of what you used to sayto me in PM's.

LouisianaTomkat 01-22-2008 04:23 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
How would everyone like a Peanut-Butter and Onion sandwich and a glass of Grape Kool-Aide? Then we can resume this discussion. After all, it is sickening anyway.

LT

MN/Kyle 01-22-2008 04:25 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
It was a good topic/post, at first.

DeerStalker80 01-22-2008 08:41 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
To Me its sounds like Atlas has spent to much time on AT

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-22-2008 09:10 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Just be an adult and respect that, please.



I don't know what Jeff has done to piss you off that you feel the need to follow him around and attack his posts every chance you get, but its annoying... For everyone involved.
Are you joking??............because that is about the exact opposite of what you used to sayto me in PM's.
Wow, even I never thought you'd go that low. Sad. [:'(]

Dr Andy 01-22-2008 09:16 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat

How would everyone like a Peanut-Butter and Onion sandwich and a glass of Grape Kool-Aide? Then we can resume this discussion. After all, it is sickening anyway.

LT
Hey, If you've never had peanut butteron dark rye with a slice of sweet onion, like a vidalia, you really don't know what you're missing! I'm serious try it !

Washington Hunter 01-22-2008 09:17 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Just be an adult and respect that, please.



I don't know what Jeff has done to piss you off that you feel the need to follow him around and attack his posts every chance you get, but its annoying... For everyone involved.
Are you joking??............because that is about the exact opposite of what you used to sayto me in PM's.
Wow, even I never thought you'd go that low. Sad.
Meh, I'm not going to deny it. Jeff really irritated the hell out of me at one point and I happened to mention it in PM.

What Atlas fails to realize is that I don't live in the past. I do my best not to hold grudges. If you were to ask me what it was that Jeff did or said to piss me off, I really couldn't tell you what it was. Hindsight is 20/20 though and people show their true character over time. The fact that Atlas is so quick to mention something like that really goes to show his character.

I'm cool with Jeff now and I'm assuming (hoping) he's cool with me, too. I'd be willing to let him hunt here any day.

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-22-2008 09:18 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Dr Andy


ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat

How would everyone like a Peanut-Butter and Onion sandwich and a glass of Grape Kool-Aide? Then we can resume this discussion. After all, it is sickening anyway.

LT
Hey, If you've never had peanut butteron dark rye with a slice of sweet onion, like a vidalia, you really don't know what you're missing! I'm serious try it !
Dr. Andy, just like the last post I quoted, eeewww that's stinks. [:'(]

Washington Hunter 01-22-2008 09:20 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Dr Andy


ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat

How would everyone like a Peanut-Butter and Onion sandwich and a glass of Grape Kool-Aide? Then we can resume this discussion. After all, it is sickening anyway.

LT
Hey, If you've never had peanut butteron dark rye with a slice of sweet onion, like a vidalia, you really don't know what you're missing! I'm serious try it !
Can't say as I've ever had it with onions, but peanut butter and bacon sandwiches are actually pretty good.

Got the idea from Backcountry Bowhunting, Cameron is really onto something with those!

atlasman 01-22-2008 09:22 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Just be an adult and respect that, please.



I don't know what Jeff has done to piss you off that you feel the need to follow him around and attack his posts every chance you get, but its annoying... For everyone involved.
Are you joking??............because that is about the exact opposite of what you used to sayto me in PM's.
Wow, even I never thought you'd go that low. Sad. [:'(]

Easy to say when you are driving on a one way street ;)

buckmaster 01-22-2008 09:27 PM

RE: WB; not accurate?
 
Ill give it 5-6 more posts...lol
At least we never get bored. Just think where we'd be without the drama....


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