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Old 01-14-2008 | 03:12 AM
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Ask the forum what their definition of a "mature buck" is. I'm betting the overall consensus is......."most" will say that a buck's age af maturity starts at 3.5yrs.
I say the same ...........3 1/2 would be a mature buck. I just didn't see any in your pics.

Why would I ask anybody for a definition of a mature buck? I think that I have that down pretty good.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 03:56 AM
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You know Rob......this is a good example of why I get frustrated when people post up "absolutes"......ESPECIALLY when there's no way on earth they can be proved OR disproved.

There are so many examples of this .......most every day....on this site. There are SO many myths out there about "big bucks this"....or "mature bucks that".....that simply can't be proved.

I think we can learn the deer WE hunt.....in our hunting grounds. We can pattern them.....study them....observe them....and all we've really done is know THEM. What the deer in someone else's woods are doing.....I wouldn't hazard a guess to. Nor would I pretend to be able to make a blanket statement about them.

It's funny, you're the only one to post an absolute........Myth busted. Everyone else posted what their experiences were on their own ground.

Then you come on here and post this......... especially the "Einstein" comment in bold.......... how profound![:-]

Here you are, a beginning bow hunter, spouting off about what frustrates you. Take heart ........ all beginners get frustrated. However, most of them don't continually make post after post making them come off as a know- it -all expert. It's reminiscent of a 6th grader trying to be an adult. Very irritating.

You need to grow and stop whining, then people will start to listen to you and stop ignoring you.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 04:13 AM
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I'm speechless.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 05:06 AM
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I say the same ...........3 1/2 would be a mature buck. I just didn't see any in your pics.
I swear Greg.....the more you type....the more you resign yourself to pathetic-dom. (I'll show you why in just a second)

It's funny, you're the only one to post an absolute........Myth busted.
Again (And I posted this just a few posts ago)...the mythn I was busting....was the "Absolute" that "mature bucks" are spooked by the camera. And I posted photographic evidence that they weren't.

Everyone else posted what their experiences were on their own ground.
Which is all I did.....and ever do.

Here you are, a beginning bow hunter, spouting off about what frustrates you. Take heart ........ all beginners get frustrated. However, most of them don't continually make post after post making them come off as a know- it -all expert. It's reminiscent of a 6th grader trying to be an adult. Very irritating.
And again you go back to the personal attacks. What frustrates me is people who make "absolute" statements about deer hunting (if the shoe fits, wear it). That's what's frustrating. If you want to rebutt what I said in this thread.....go ahead (I'm not trying to come off as a know it all......and if you'll show me the error of my ways....I'm usually good about admitting mine). But if you have to continually stoop to personal attacks to bolster your argument......you come off as a pathetic whiner. Again....I warned you of that a few posts back, too.






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Old 01-14-2008 | 05:11 AM
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I say the same ...........3 1/2 would be a mature buck. I just didn't see any in your pics.
Hey Greg......I won't make any personal attacks on you (but you did kinda stick a boot in your mouth with this one)......but maybe this will show you just how much you DON'T know. You HAD to know I was smarter than this. See......one of these deer is on my wall....and the other will be...as soon as my taxi's done with him.

They were both jawbone aged.

Here's how I might know a little about the two deer in the last photo (the 3.5 yr olds) I posted. Note one of them is 4.5 yrs old when I'n holding him.....but they were both 3.5 in the last pic.











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Old 01-14-2008 | 05:48 AM
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Just askig did the video I posted on page two work for anyone?
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Old 01-14-2008 | 05:52 AM
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Yes Jim, It almost looked like the deer smelled thecam then booked it. I dont have one of these camera's is their still a little red light? I have the flash one's.
Your thoughts?
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Old 01-14-2008 | 05:56 AM
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Cancel the smell factor, I froze the video on certain spots and the Cam indeed scared it off.
Thanks for sharing that and probably saved me some cash.
I found it strange how all of a sudden he just turns and comes right up to it like he did.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 06:11 AM
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I have a great buck feeding in my yard every night 140-150 class 10 point that after ten days I gave up on getting his picture, he knows that the camera is not his friend. Before I get told deer aren't smart enough to avoid cameras forget it I`watched him circle it every night.
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Old 01-14-2008 | 06:11 AM
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I have a friend who put a Wildlife Eye out on a food plot that contains a camera as well. They did this because they had ONE picture of a mature buck and never got another one.

The Wildlife Eye showed that the buck would enter the food plot in the same spot, walk across and deliberately GO AROUND the still camera. He avoided it every time.

It's a major factor why many of us only get a single picture of a good buck, not all bucks as I stated, I have one that stood for a whole series, even almost looked like he was inquisitive about the camera, again a 35mm so it made noise as well as flashed, other deer......snap, gone!
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