Evidence supporting no flash cams.
01-13-2008, 09:00 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Evidence supporting no flash cams.
I have 42 pictures of this buck in a 3 hour period, my cam was set a shots of 2, for every 1 minute of motion.
So Needless to say ill be sticking with Flash.
So Needless to say ill be sticking with Flash.
01-13-2008, 09:04 PM
#22
Boone & Crockett
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Location: Hughesville, PA USA
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RE: Evidence supporting no flash cams.
Who knows when it comes to the deer. I've had pictures of a buck that stood around and posed for several pictures. He didn't mind one bit but then I have another where I had the camera set up for double pics, in the first one he's walking, in the second one he's on his hind legs jumping out of his skin.
Of course the 35mm make noise too.
I think no flash is better but....like Greg showed, it still can be spooking. Look at the deer on the video ones, they look, get nervous etc....
Of course the 35mm make noise too.
I think no flash is better but....like Greg showed, it still can be spooking. Look at the deer on the video ones, they look, get nervous etc....
Who knows.
01-13-2008, 09:23 PM
#23
Dominant Buck
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RE: Evidence supporting no flash cams.
You know Rob......this is a good example of why I get frustrated when people post up "absolutes"......ESPECIALLY when there's no way on earth they can be proved OR disproved.
There are so many examples of this .......most every day....on this site. There are SO many myths out there about "big bucks this"....or "mature bucks that".....that simply can't be proved.
I think we can learn the deer WE hunt.....in our hunting grounds. We can pattern them.....study them....observe them....and all we've really done is know THEM. What the deer in someone else's woods are doing.....I wouldn't hazard a guess to. Nor would I pretend to be able to make a blanket statement about them.
There are so many examples of this .......most every day....on this site. There are SO many myths out there about "big bucks this"....or "mature bucks that".....that simply can't be proved.
I think we can learn the deer WE hunt.....in our hunting grounds. We can pattern them.....study them....observe them....and all we've really done is know THEM. What the deer in someone else's woods are doing.....I wouldn't hazard a guess to. Nor would I pretend to be able to make a blanket statement about them.
01-13-2008, 09:27 PM
#24
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Evidence supporting no flash cams.
Correct Jeff, with whitetails, absolutes are out the window. Deer spook deer then the next one lets us walk by without flinching. Deer are deer, they will do what deer do.
01-13-2008, 09:34 PM
#25
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RE: Evidence supporting no flash cams.
We have snow up here in which clearly shows that deer, especially the bigger ones ("mature bucks"), start skirting the cameras. Out of hundreds of pics that I have gotten, each mature buck was captured only once, even with moving the cameras. This is from the last 3 years. They don't leave the area, they just avoid the cameras.
Again, the no flash bothers them less, but they still don't like it.
Is seeing their tracks circling around the camera proof enough?
I should add that it is illegal for me to use bait so I don't.
Again, the no flash bothers them less, but they still don't like it.
Is seeing their tracks circling around the camera proof enough?
I should add that it is illegal for me to use bait so I don't.
01-13-2008, 09:55 PM
#28
Dominant Buck
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RE: Evidence supporting no flash cams.
Another prime example of someone trying to post absolutes....when they have NO FREAKIN IDEA of the area I hunt.
There isn't a sidewalk within 10mi. of here.....the county.....the "country". The closest "playground" is further. "Houses"? My "next-door" neighbors are on 24ac.; 24 ac.; 15ac.and 17 ac....lol.
Maybe we shoud all just stick to what we know......OUR areas. That's all I was saying....and I posted the photos to prove it.
There isn't a sidewalk within 10mi. of here.....the county.....the "country". The closest "playground" is further. "Houses"? My "next-door" neighbors are on 24ac.; 24 ac.; 15ac.and 17 ac....lol.
Maybe we shoud all just stick to what we know......OUR areas. That's all I was saying....and I posted the photos to prove it.
01-13-2008, 10:21 PM
#30
Dominant Buck
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RE: Evidence supporting no flash cams.
Ask the forum what their definition of a "mature buck" is. I'm betting the overall consensus is......."most" will say that a buck's age af maturity starts at 3.5yrs.
And really.....do you know how silly you look when you constantly stoop to attemting to personally defame someone......simply because they don't walk lock-step with your way of thinking.....especially when they have photographic evidence to prove theirs?
As a favor I'll tell ya........you should think about that....
And really.....do you know how silly you look when you constantly stoop to attemting to personally defame someone......simply because they don't walk lock-step with your way of thinking.....especially when they have photographic evidence to prove theirs?
As a favor I'll tell ya........you should think about that....