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Old 01-08-2008 | 01:09 PM
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No, he's only going to shoot a bow that pays him. One thing I've noticed about Ted is that he shoots a number of different bow setups and is very careful not to pitch one against another.
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Old 01-08-2008 | 01:36 PM
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Justin's point about the majority of the hunting public being highly influenced by advertising vs. hunters on this board. When I shot for Renegade Archery you wouldn't believe the number of folks at shows that wanted to see, shoot, and buya "Nuge" bow simply because it was Ted's signature bow.

I agree completely with those that think sponsors should not be crammed down the viewer's throats. We (Aim Low) have had to make a stand with some of our sponsors in the past and make them understand that we simply cannot take that course. We have more flexibility I suppose, since we are not making our living doing our show. That has also allowed us to turn higher paying sponsors down in order to continue shooting what we want to shoot.

Something not really mentioned yet is the fact that often times it is the sponsor that wants out, not the show, and that leads to the product change. Let's face it, hypothetically, I might love the bows I am shooting right now, but if they decide not to ante up their part of the bill next year...how can I continue to shoot them?

Also,think about how often do you hear someone say "Man I love that new bow...I will never shoot anything but (insert brand)!" We all do it, and yet, we all make changes anyways.
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Old 01-08-2008 | 01:38 PM
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No, he's only going to shoot a bow that pays him.
Add "the most" to the end of the your statement and you have it nailed. Ted is one of the ones that switch with the wind and where it blows the money to.
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Old 01-08-2008 | 02:19 PM
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While this is unrealistic, I'd like them to explain why they have changed brands and be honest. Example, Drury Bros. used to be Hoyt users, always saying "... the 'ol Hoyt did it's job!", now they're with PSE. Did the 'ol Hoyt QUIT doing it's job?? How about Waddell? Why did he switch from Muzzy to G5? Does it always come down to the almighty dollar or did they have a real reason for changing, such as sincerely feeling the newproduct was superior. Sadly itprobably does boil down to $$.
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Old 01-08-2008 | 02:32 PM
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I think your question has some merit to it Mobow... but in the real world people got to pay the bills. The "pro's" are no different than you and me. They have families to feed too.

But let me ask all you this. I've been hunting for 12 seasons now. I myself have never had back to back seasons with "ALL" the same gear. I switch too. Who doesn't? We all try different broadheads, go to different bow manufacturers, try a new grunt call.. ETC ETC.

One year, I remember, I was heck bent on trying feather vanes. You have to try things to see what you like best. For "pro's" theirs just more money involved.
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Old 01-08-2008 | 02:43 PM
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Sorry not reading it all. I don't watch tv because of the lack of credibility. Got tired of being insulted at every turn. I sure as hell aint paying to be insulted.

I guess that's not exactly true. When I go to my brothers we watch some. He saves the most outrageous ones. Uncle Ted is always in there some where.
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Old 01-08-2008 | 03:01 PM
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But let me ask all you this. I've been hunting for 12 seasons now. I myself have never had back to back seasons with "ALL" the same gear. I switch too. Who doesn't? We all try different broadheads, go to different bow manufacturers, try a new grunt call.. ETC ETC.
While this is true and relative for those of use who aren't being paid to use a particular product, its not true for the people who are. Someone sponsored by Company Xwho isbeing paid to use their bows cannot just up and decide to try Company Y's bow on a whim because they are curious how well it works. Unless of course they don't care about feeding their families, or they're doing it in the private and not for the world to see and know about happens quite a bit I'm sure.

And let's assume that they do want to try a new product that is cool and works great and they don't have a sponsor for. You can bet your bottom dollar that they're not going to promote, push, or feature that product no matter how great is is, unless the manufacturer is paying. If they did, then all of a sudden they're on a pretty slippery slope that ends with sponsors no longer wanting to pay for your advertising services if you're giving them to other people for free. Reference a Primos video from a few years back where one of their staffers was using a non-PSE bow, despite what I'm sure their contract said. All of a sudden they're with Bear Archery a year later. Coincidence my dear friend? I think not.

I personally believe the comparisons between the average guy finding something cool that he wants to check out and, as an example, the Drury gang switching to PSE after countless years with Hoyt are two different things. We do it because of our love of the sport, they do it because of our human nature and the love of money. I've shot both the new PSE and the new Hoyt and let me tell you, they didn't switch because PSE is making a better bow.

To answer GMMATT from earlier - I believe that if you're considered one of the top celebrities in the industry you can most certainly garner the sponsorship of just about any company you choose, the problem is how much money you're willing to settle for. Not every company has the same marketing budget which is why you see a lot of people with some, and few people with others. You maywant 40 grand a year in sponsorship money from a small company making the best product that can only afford 10 grand a year. If you're willing to take a 30 thousand dollar hit just to use what you think is a better product you either A.) are independently wealthy outside of hunting or B.) are insane.

I don't fault anyone, blame anyone, or hold anything against anyone who is paid to promote a product. Life is hard enough as it is, and if they can make a living doing something they enjoy and providing some entertainment for others, then more power to them.


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Old 01-08-2008 | 03:09 PM
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Thanks for the quote out of context Justin. Perhaps you should make it a documentry.[8D]
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Old 01-08-2008 | 03:10 PM
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Thanks for the quote out of context Justin. Perhaps you should make it a documentry.[8D]
I'll quote your whole post if you want me to pick the entire thing apart and not just a little bit of it.

Now go check your e-mail.
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Old 01-08-2008 | 03:13 PM
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My post said the samething.. I just write alot slower than you and didn't go in depth. Remember.. I type with two fingers still... we can't all be as cool as you.
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