RE: This is why its called hunting and not getting!
 

The whole point of this thread wasn't to knock down hunters one bit! The point I was trying to make is that these salesman are telling these 1st time bow hunters that you can take these long out there shots! Its a big sales pitch, the faster the bow the farther you can shoot, any young stud is going to believe this stuff! Sorry folks but this is the wrong message to the young or unexperienced hunter!

RE: This is why its called hunting and not getting!
 

You don't shoot.... you won't get them.[8D] That's just a big deer out there. He's not 140 class deer until he's measured. LOL I seriously doubt salesmen are telling all your friends these new compounds will really reach out there. Seems like you're saying you have a lot of friends and none of them can shoot and they all take questionable shots and your words, they're all wounding deer. Everyone in the world is a slob.... except you. Well hell boy, get some new friends if they bother you that much. Curious, how many deer have you killed with your recurve?

RE: This is why its called hunting and not getting!
 

Work real hard to become a great shot and twice as hard to be a great hunter! Knowing your limitations and knowing the disposition of the animal at the time of the shot is every thing.Size of the animal (meaning size of kill zone),angle of the shot,your own temperment at the time,calm and steady,cold and shaky.All these things enter in to the equation.
95% of my practicing takes place at 50 yards.I much prefer hunting shots that are 30 yards and in.I have shot two bucks at approaching 40 yards,one was a perfect shot and the other the buck took a step as I shot and I ended up hitting way back,fortunately I hit a main artery and he didn't go 15 yards.
To those that can consistently kill game at the longer distances my hat goes off to them. I also have a close friend who is an exceptional archer,and he his so confidant in his ability that he has taken shots that he really shouldn't have.Like the strong armed quarterback who always thinks he can thread the needle.Instead of the interception or incomplete pass with us it is wounding game.We owe it to the animal to stay within our capabilities.

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hunter ethics lol, that is an american invention. i practice with my bow all year round, i shoot 6 inch groups at 70 yards. shooting at a deer 40 yards away is no problem cause i know my bow like it is an extention of my hand. if you can't shoot a deer at 25 yards then it is only your fault for not preparing yourself. in each situation that you are presented with in the wild lets you decide what you are willing to shoot, to each his own. all i am saying is it is funny how people say you shouldn't shoot more than 30 max. i have had pass throughs at 60 and i will say that the buck you passed up cause you need more time on the range will easily be in my range when he comes by me. i am sorry to be kind of harsh but you can't push your "hunter ethics" on me, you need to see that there is a problem with your confidence and shooting ability and then you can fix it.

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I'm not pushing my ethics on anyone! Read the whole thread, the thread was about salesman, not about hunters taking long shots! This whole thread turned into it though! Stick to the subject of it. And you say I'm not preparing myself right cause I can't take a 25 yard shot? You haven't a clue do you? My hats off to the experienced folks who can take there 30 to 40 yard shots.

RE: This is why its called hunting and not getting!
 

This thread got kind of tweaked away from its original intent.(at least the way I saw it)
Shultzy just tried to say that MUCH more goes into determining ones maximum shot distance besides salesmen input on how good the equipment is.

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Saved me some typing rybo, I thought I had missed something.
Cant hardly blame the sales people though,I know when I draw back on a deer it only takes a split second for me to know if its an ethical, or withen my confidence zone shot. Sometimes theurge to be successful over rides common sense.

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Well it's obvious that Shultzy has had a problem with a salesman somewhere in his life. LOL He calls them "Big Shot Salesmen".... I call them proshop owners. It's all in the perception and view point. Really, it's suppose to be fun. You appear to have gotten all bent out of shape on the cause of these "Wounded" animals and missed shots. It's not the saleman.... it's the shooter. I personnally don't know people that go around wounding all the deer your friends seem to. They miss once in a while, but they all don't go around wounding deer. It's harder to wound a deer than it is to miss.[8D] It's suppose to be fun. You can't be the conscience of everyone in the woods. You say you've "preached" to them. Well give it a break and have some fun or find some new friends. Don't preach to them.

RE: This is why its called hunting and not getting!
 

Its more the hunters fault then anything. Every hunter should know his limitations. That isn't up to the salesmen.

The salesmen isn't lieing. The bow probably is capable of killing deer at 40yds. Its the hunter that isn't in most cases.

RE: This is why its called hunting and not getting!
 

The problem lies within the individual hunter, too many rely on there equipment and the hype of speed instead of relying on themselves to make good decisions.