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Old 11-18-2007 | 01:05 PM
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This oughta get good.
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Old 11-18-2007 | 01:16 PM
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A single lunged deer can travel well over 10 miles and generally does.
A large percentage of one lunged deer survive.
I had seen plenty of deer one lunged and walking about within the week.
I have also seen lots of kills where the scaring on the lung is very visible and the cause obvious.

This year I have seen three deer that were one lunged and then taken within two weeks after the fact during cull hunts.
No way!! Sure there is an exception to every rule, but saying that "large percentage....survive", BS!!!

"A single lung hit deer can travel 10 miles and usually do" come on! The average range of a whitetail is 1 square mile! Sure there are exceptions but it's not happening much.

Most single lung hit deer are DEAD!!!
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Old 11-18-2007 | 03:38 PM
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Eeeeks! This was supposed to be in attempt to raise awareness that we should be educating new bowhunters and probably even "old" bowhunters on proper shot placement, not a discussion about how long single lunged deer can live! I guess it just goes to prove that more education is needed because so far we've already got someone saying that a single lung is a bullseye. I've probably killed and recovered 2 dozen of my own deerto dateand none of them have had only a single lung hit.

And yes, if you are a "christian" then christianity has everything to do with bowhunting. I don't everremember the good book saying that it was ok to carelessly fling sharp projectiles at living creatures then let them die a horrible death after you've left the woods and told yourself "ahh he'll live, ok I feel better now."
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Old 11-18-2007 | 03:44 PM
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And yes, if you are a "christian" then christianity has everything to do with bowhunting. I don't everremember the good book saying that it was ok to carelessly fling sharp projectiles at living creatures then let them die a horrible death
HH... I agree with you and I share your frustration.... even anger. If you can't be disciplined enough to make a clean shot. HANG UP YOUR BOW...until you get enough practice. I skipped my first year of bow hunting because I didn't feel I was consistent enough.
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Old 11-18-2007 | 03:53 PM
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Yah I give thanks, to my grandfather and father for teaching me to hunt and fish. I also don't believe in the use of dogs for any part of deer hunting. This is just my opinion. In my expirience I have never seen a lung shot deer survive.

Back on subject, your brother in law needs to take more resonsibility in the harvesting of animals or find a new hobby.
Using a tracking dog to find downed deer that would otherwise go unrecovered is not only moral but ethical. Your experience doesn't cover all the 100's of thousands of deer that are shot every year. When it comes to nature, especially whitetails, I don't take anything for granted.
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Old 11-18-2007 | 03:55 PM
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And yes, if you are a "christian" then christianity has everything to do with bowhunting. I don't everremember the good book saying that it was ok to carelessly fling sharp projectiles at living creatures then let them die a horrible death
HH... I agree with you and I share your frustration.... even anger. If you can't be disciplined enough to make a clean shot. HANG UP YOUR BOW...until you get enough practice. I skipped my first year of bow hunting because I didn't feel I was consistent enough.


Kudos! More should learn from your example.
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Old 11-18-2007 | 04:02 PM
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And yes, if you are a "christian" then christianity has everything to do with bowhunting. I don't everremember the good book saying that it was ok to carelessly fling sharp projectiles at living creatures then let them die a horrible death after you've left the woods and told yourself "ahh he'll live, ok I feel better now."
Nope, not at all Christianity is about how much you Love God Almight. The rest falls in place. Using it now to prove your point is probably in bad taste.

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37Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
 
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Old 11-18-2007 | 05:04 PM
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Nope, not at all Christianity is about how much you Love God Almight. The rest falls in place. Using it now to prove your point is probably in bad taste.
I don't think you think it's ok to lay God's creatures to waste right?

Loving almighty God means loving and respecting all his creatures too. I'm confused as to where you stand with this.

And no, using Christianity to prove my point is not in bad taste. Why should I not hold someone to their beliefs at a time where their beliefs should shine through most?

For example if someone is a deacon at a church but has extramarital affairs, is it not fair for me to hold them to their religion that doesn't condone affairs?

By the same token, if you go to church on Sunday and preach love almighty god and don't kill for pleasure, then the following saturday go out into the woods and start flinging arrows carelessly at his creatures with a crooked bow, is that not hypocrisy in form? I dont' know what debate you have with me but that's all I'm saying.

REWIND FOLKS!!!

All I'm really saying is that we should comprise info on what preparation has to be taken before flinging arrows at critters. Yes, I know it's every hunter's responsibility to know what he's doing before he does it in the woods but honestly, you know and I know thatbetter than 90% of new bowhunters don't and just think they do. Making this information readily available on this website would not only paint us in a better light to the general public but could also result in less "bad shot what should I do" posts.

Talk about good intentions gone bad geeez.

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Old 11-18-2007 | 05:17 PM
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Nope, not at all Christianity is about how much you Love God Almight. The rest falls in place. Using it now to prove your point is probably in bad taste.
I don't think you think it's ok to lay God's creatures to waste right?

Loving almighty God means loving and respecting all his creatures too. I'm confused as to where you stand with this.

And no, using Christianity to prove my point is not in bad taste. Why should I not hold someone to their beliefs at a time where their beliefs should shine through most?

For example if someone is a deacon at a church but has extramarital affairs, is it not fair for me to hold them to their religion that doesn't condone affairs?

By the same token, if you go to church on Sunday and preach love almighty god and don't kill for pleasure, then the following saturday go out into the woods and start flinging arrows carelessly at his creatures with a crooked bow, is that not hypocrisy in form? I dont' know what debate you have with me but that's all I'm saying.

REWIND FOLKS!!!

All I'm really saying is that we should comprise info on what preparation has to be taken before flinging arrows at critters. Yes, I know it's every hunter's responsibility to know what he's doing before he does it in the woods but honestly, you know and I know thatbetter than 90% of new bowhunters don't and just think they do. Making this information readily available on this website would not only paint us in a better light to the general public but could also result in less "bad shot what should I do" posts.

Talk about good intentions gone bad geeez.
I don't have problems with anything you say until you mentioned the whole Christian thing. We all are sinners. We all do wrong in God's eyes. You, I, everybody, we all fall short. Who knows maybe God might see something you and I doing as much worse. Maybe he might care less about the deer, but wonder why you and I wasn't out feeding the poor.

Sure, its wrong to fling arrows everywhere. Also maybe wrong to use God's wordbecause of your frustatration with your friend.

People know where to hit deer. Some people just don't want thier nose shoved in it when they screw up.
 
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I'm sure I'm going to piss people off, but just leave the whole religion thing out. Go to a religion forum and have fun, let's talk bowhunting here.
"Eeeeks! This was supposed to be in attempt to raise awareness that we should be educating new bowhunters and probably even "old" bowhunters on proper shot placement......."
valid topic of discussion for any level of hunter. so to your comment...
What if the animal is turned and facing downhill on a grade...............and severely quartered away
I say......don't shoot. there's your shot placement.




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