The reason the grip fits you is cause you have the fattest fingers I have ever seen........

Dink is Love

Why not go back to the pro shop and ask him? This time of year bow shops are crazy, maybe you completely read the guy wrong?? I know an owner of a small shop, mostly Parker and PSE bows. He made a deal with another small shop that was a Mathews dealer who was having trouble selling his quota of bows. He traded a few Mathews for what ever so each bow shop had more brands to compare and sell. This didn't fly well with Mathews and now neither of the bow shops can carry Mathews. IF the guy has an attitude towards Mathews, I'd bet it has something to do with the dealership issues that my friend went through and others have mentioned here.
Seems every body is affiliated with someone else now days, the local bow shop had Scent Blocker Products last year but since the bow shop doesn't sell Hoyt, they can no longer sell Scent Blocker. Makes no sense.

i know a few shops that has had lots of problems with mathews..not the bow the company..the company is a pain in the as_s to work with....my thing is i like to be a little differnent than everybody else so i shot a browning illusion....i could have bought a hoyt or mathews but everybody else has one....each top of the line bow from each company is just about identical...they shoot great....mathews just has alot of advertising and sponsers lots of people...lots...thats why you see them on tv everywhere and at the shoots....if you were givin a free new top of the line bow from any company wouldnt you shoot it and say it is great....i would... though i have found some people with mathews that think there bows are god...and then i out shoot them and they have every excuse possible...i say buy what looks pretty to you and is comfertable.....i was reading and a guy said he swithced to mathews and he shoots better...well he probaly finalyhas a tuned bow. like my buddy he final got a brand new bow(mathews) and guess what he all of a sudden shoots great he thinks...i let him shoot my bow and wow he shot dead center with 3 arrows. a tuned bow is what to have...........maybe the shop owner has had problems with mathews and thought you were the stereo type with mathews...its not the bow its a mathews type...maybe he might just want to see the bow tomake sure everything is tuned up in order to figure what type of problem you are having with the arrows.

Thanks for all of the posts...I'lll try to answer some questions.

Bloodcreek,
No, not yet. my arrows fly fine even with fixed broadheads but I still think I'm underspined.


PreacherTony,
Yep,

It's funny, like I said I've talked bow stuff with this guy on more than one occasion and of course the question of what you shoot comes up. Every time I told him what I shot he didn't blink an eye and we just kept on with the conversation, I mention Mathews and he gives me the "oh" with that frickin look on his face. There was not doubt his attitude all had to do with the word Mathews.

Wack.......Uh...not a chance, he knew what he was doing.

That's entirely possible but still does not give a Pro Shop owner the right to dis someone does it? Don't get me wrong he can do anything he wants but I suspect his customer base will shrink pretty fast if he keeps it up.

mus stang,

Well he didn't ask to see the bow, he just asked what I shot. It was only when I said Mathews that he changed his whole attitude and said "oh"then gave me that look like "well there's you problem right there". Plus I didn't tell him my bow was out of tune I just felt that at my draw length and bow weight combined with myarrow length I think I'm underspined. The bow shoots fine but I'd like to see how a 300 spine shoots as opposed to the 350's I'm shooting now.

I wasn't in a tizzy about my bow or anything like that, I told him everything was shooting fine and that I was ready for the bow season to open and that I would probably not change anything till after the season anyway. I just wanted his opinion on what i was thinking about moving to a stiffer arrow.


Believe me SuperRedHawk I wanted to but I figured it wasn't worth it. I just cut off the conversation real fast and left. I was going to shoot a little on the range but I figured another shop would get my money that day.

I shoot between a 31 & 32in draw at 70lbs. I'm 6'4" but I have a pretty long wingspan at right about 81.5 in. The Mathews has a 32in draw cam and it fits just fine.

I haven't chrono'd this set up yet but I will when I get the chance. I usually pick up about 10-15 more FPS with the longer draw, but as you know it depends on the bow. Itseems to zip them down range pretty fast,probably right on par with mostof the bows I shoot in the 270fps range. The arrowsweigh in at about 470gr.


The bottom line guys is pretty clear, this guy had "issues" with me shooting a Mathews, why I don't know. But since owning one it seems like either folks like them or hate them AND the people who shoot them....and that's the part I don't get.[:'(]

Shooting a Browning most of my life I'm used to people saying my bow is junkand I should buy a "good bow" but never have I seen this type of ugliness until I bought the Mathews.

I'll tell you what, they must be doing something right because this bow flat out shoots great. All the advertising inthe world isn't gonna help if your trying to sell a turd. Sooner or later folks will stop buying it if it don't work.

It's just interesting the way some people react to them.

It is probably something along those lines or maybe he's just an idiot.It sure as heck isn't because there is anything wrong with Mathews bows. Sadly I run into a lot of people like thisin sporting goods stores. They like to make bold radical negative statements about this product or that one even if it cuts against conventional wisdom. What actual facts or experience these comments are based on (if any)I cannot say but I guess they think it makes them seem like one of the few who are really "In the Know." What I can say is that they are very often dead wrong.If I stopped using every gun or bow that some supposed or self appointed expert told me wasn't worth a flip then I'll have to give up the sport of hunting for lack of a suitable weapon.

I hear this a lot and I can't speak for where some of you guys are buying bows but in my neck of the woods there really is very little difference in price, if any, between a Mathews and the other top of the line bows from companies like Bowtec or Hoyt. I think the genesis of this myth is perhaps this: Mathews pretty much just sells top end bows while companies like PSE and Hoyt sell cheaper econo models in addition to their top end bows. I think some are comparing these cheaper models to a Mathews. But thats really an apples to oranges comparrison. Compare a Mathews Switchback to the best bow Hoyt or Bowtec makes and there is no significant difference in price in my area.

In closing I would also like to say that it is another myth that Mathews bows are just hype and people only buy them as a status symbol. Marketing hype and celebrity sponcers may get someone to buy something once but if it sucks or doesn't live up to expectations then people won't buy it again. All the people I know that have bought a Mathews, guess what? When they got ready for a newbow they bought another Mathews. That's a pretty clear indication of customer satisfaction. I have personally shot the best bows from Browning, PSE and Hoyt. None of them IMHO compare to myMathews.And when that new bow bug starts gnawing at my @$$, I'm getting one of the newer model Mathews.

bigj, i get an awful feeling in my stomach when i hear about mathews bows - don't know why - and i shoot one - an apex7 right now - want to shoot a nice bow that'll make you mind your p's and q's - try an apex 7 - frikkin' thing is awesome - but i'm still a mathews hater - even though i'll probably get another one so i have 1 for a backup.

i love bowtech, but every one i get - it breaks or i break it - its like dating a girl you think is the greatest - but can't get along with her for squat. go figure.

Without reading all of the replies, I see brand bashing all the time in the shops around here, not only Mathews. The local Bowtech/Marting shop doesn't care for Mathews.......Mathews shop doesn't like Bowtech. I take it with a grain of salt.

Not that I care, but I thought I would respond.

Dealers that I walk into always try to sell you a bow that they are pushing, and if you shoot anything else, well they give you a confused look. I own a Mathews Drenalin, I am not going into the shop to buy another bow, I just want to look around. I ignore them from the moment I walk in. I don't care what the dealer thinks, only what I think. The Drenalin in my area is priced very competetively with the Guardian, Vectrix and Vulcan. They all are a lot of money, thats no lie. The dealer prices the bows, Mathews probably tells them they cannot sell for less than this much, and not more than MSRP; if someone here is unhappy with the price locally, go elsewhere. I paid $799 for my Drenalin, and many people 100 miles away are paying $150 less. The geography of where your at plays a huge role.

Mathews can make a break a shop, especially if the shop is in an area dominated by Mathews shooters.

There is any number of factors that could persuade a dealer to be like yours, for us to sit here and deliberate that is useless...

that would be my guess

JeffK....

You have to admit (Jeff and I are both members of the Mathews board).....that Mathews DIE HARDS are a "bit" over the top, sometimes. Now before anyone thinks I'm bashing....I OWN ONE. I'd buy another one if I needed a great bow. I just happen to like something else a "little" better, right now.

Being from NC......the big rivalry here is Duke/UNC. I've been a duke fan since 1980. I have nothing against UNC (in general). I like their campus (heck....every time I ever played against them we beat them.....lol). I like their coach. I like a great majorit of their players. It's their FANS that rub me the wrong way.

Methinks Mathews (and all bow companies.....but the public perception is Mathews has a BUNCH) has some unruly "fans".

But..."I" am a fan of their bows (not a FANATIC, though).