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GMMAT 09-24-2007 07:50 AM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 
So to prove the suit......they're going to HAVE to prove that reactivation (At ANY level) is NOT achievable. If they do that.....I'll jump ship.

Something tells me they're not going to be able to prove this. They'll parade "their" guy. The Plaintiff will parade "his" guy. Nothing past what's already been done. There will NOT be an UNbiased report.

I honestly don't think there's a party involved who is UNbiased.

GR8atta2d 09-24-2007 07:53 AM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 
I shoot a Bowtech, there is still some arch in archery..They claim they take it out!
I've hit Top Flites, They weren't the Longest Ball...They claim they are!
I've hit a rock with my Chevy..I dented my truck...It's not "hard as a rock"..They claim it is!

Where will it end?? Sign me up Scent-lok..I'll parade hundreds of guys through the courts claiming it worked as advertised!

If you didn't get "duped" good for you..but you don't see many people who bought it..claiming fraud. It's always the other guys!

Dr Andy 09-24-2007 07:54 AM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65

I think most of it has to do with the Carbon and the Reactivation of it.
Re-activation was a poor choice of words on their part,you can't re-activate carbon in a dryer. You can however break the weak covalent bonds adsorbing the odor molecules from the carbon enough for the garment to be effective at eliminating some of you body odor. Again a small part of the puzzle. Showering, laundry, breath etc. all fit into this picture.

buckmaster 09-24-2007 07:56 AM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 
they dont claim there hard as rock they just state "like a rock" and they dont even state what or which part is like a rock.;)

TxStarr 09-24-2007 08:20 AM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 
It is going to be one expensive expert's word against another expensive expert's word and the winner is going to be the one with the most believable expert. How are the plaintiffs going to prove in court that it was the failure of their $1,000.00 scent-lok suit that cost them a deer? What about the smells coming from their equipment, a bag they took to the stand, leather shoe smell, hair gel/hairspray, deodorant, cologne, sound of a phone, a cough or sneeze, sun glinting off of a piece of equipment or jewelry, . . . the list of possiblities goes on and on.

That being said, if it works for you, woo hoo. If you don't think it works, don't buy it. Research everything you buy before you invest your hard earned money. I think we all realize that nothing is 100% foolproof. The companies keep making better products but the fools keep getting better!!!

cmscat50 09-24-2007 08:39 AM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 

That is a major role of the FDA.........to insure products do what they claim to. That is why herbals and supplements are not allowed by law to make health claims.........because it is not proven in scientific controlled studies.
You've just displayed your lack of any knowledge regarding the FDA.

The FDA has one interest. To protect the drug companies and their profits. The FDA is THE most corrupt entity in the USA. How many drugs have been taken off the market well AFTER they kill many many people? Why? Because the drug companies lose billions in profits if their patented drug isn't selling. The FDA doesn't care about us they care about the drug companies. How many drugs including Tylenol cure the cause of a problem? NONE. They all treat a symptom. Therefore we become dependant on these drugs that do nothing but make our body think it feels better. Then we develop other problems and need more drugs. The FDA and drug companies WIN.

Natural cures cannot be patented. Therefore there is little money to be made with natural cures. The drug companies (and FDA) know this and will squash every single company that tries to develop a natural cure. The drug companies need their patented drugs to make their billions. It is law that only drugs and surgery can cure disease. If you promote a natural cure to prevent or cure disease you will be arrested and sent to jail. This is your FDA.

It is my OPINION that the FDA is responsible for cancer in the US. Cancer in my opinion has been cured. What happens to the American Cancer Society if cancer is cured? Thousands lose their high paying jobs. The FDA has to findout how to keep cancer alive so they can sell more drugs. If you don't believe cancer has been cured at least many forms start looking around at other countries that don't have multi billion dollar drug companies. You might be surprised.

Don't even get me started on this crap.

If Scentlok wants to market a product to give hunters confidence that's fine with me. I think it works to a point. If the FDA wants to continue to allow thousands of americans to be killed by drugs which should have never been put on the market. There's where I havea problem.

Killer_Primate 09-24-2007 08:46 AM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 
I feel as though I’m unbiased to carbon, but not the clothing lines. You asked about “damages”; If I sold you a car that didn’t run – what are the damages? Were you unable to get to work? There are many ways to get there…

Keep in mind it is the party that makes the claims that have to show the proof. The clothing company’s are the ones making the claims, some of the customers aren’t seeing the results that they expected. Does this surprise me? Nope, it’s called marketing. They have an entirely different language that they use, which is really similar to the language that we use, but with a funny twist; you know, like using the same words that we use, but they have different meanings… It really is trickery at its finest hour.

The real issue is; did they know that it didn’t work, the way that they said it does. I’m really not sure, and I’m pretty sure others aren’t either. And your statement on reactivation is probably true, but here we go again with BS. How about it doesn’t make good sense, does that work? NO, it doesn’t work. If they were to mention that you needed to buy a special dryer with a par of pants no one would buy it. And keep in mind that dryer should get its air from outside the house… New duct work or outside dryer location… sounds like quite an investment to me.
So lets assume for a moment that it does all work, the way that they claim. Aren’t they at least being a little quiet in regards to reactivation, and what kind of a process that really is? And by not including that little part, wouldn’t you agree that they’re being a little dishonest with the public?
What if that were your bow? Would you feel different?

This is the new Achme bow, it’ll send them down the range at 600 fps!

Achme disclaimer time – this bow requires it’s limbs to go through the patented Achme limb retensioning tensionometer every 100 arrows.

Do you have an Achme retensioning tensionometer? Do you know how big one of these is? Do you know how much it costs? Will they do it for you? Have you ever even seen one? They say it’s real easy… Even a primate could do it!

And if that doesn’t sound bad enough – to really compare to the carbon clothing analogy, you wouldn’t even be able to measure whether the arrow even went 600 fps right out of the box!

That is marketing, snake oil and health tonic…

But, it is your money, I really don’t care.

MN/Kyle 09-24-2007 01:16 PM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 

ORIGINAL: Dr Andy

Should I sue Bowflex Home Gym? Three days a week for 20mins and I still don't look anything like the guy in the commecial. Maybe Axe deodorant, I've used the stuff and the women don't swarm to me like flies to ****. I should sue them! How many other ads are there that overstate and exxagerate claims
If you have the time and money, why not?

GMMAT 09-24-2007 01:35 PM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 
I wonder if T.R. will be forced tocease and desisthis crusade and be cited for libel if the suit goes in favor of the defendants?

My "guess" is the key to this suit will be in the definition of "reactivation" and "regeneration".

I'm also wondering if the buck growl duping suit is next???:D

Germ 09-24-2007 01:37 PM

RE: Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 

ORIGINAL: outdoormafiaKP


ORIGINAL: Dr Andy

Should I sue Bowflex Home Gym? Three days a week for 20mins and I still don't look anything like the guy in the commecial. Maybe Axe deodorant, I've used the stuff and the women don't swarm to me like flies to ****. I should sue them! How many other ads are there that overstate and exxagerate claims
If you have the time and money, why not?
Because we all pay for it[:@] GM got sued for 100,000,000 dollars because a family was killed in like a 77 malibou. Now the guy that hit them was doing over 100, but money will help them feel better.

I am all for sticking up for what is right. All I ask is change the system so loosers pays;)


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