Minnesota Hunters Sue Scent Lok
 

http://www.startribune.com/outdoors/story/1438361.html

What a disgrace. The answer to everything is to sue someone or some company today. I thought my fellow deer hunters would be above it but apparently someome felt the best course of action was to sue versus, oh, I don't know, maybe sending the $1,000 worth ofclothing one of the plantiffs purchased back to Scent Lok and asking for a refund. Nope, today you sue and see what sort of money that isn't yours that you can get that you don't deserve. Waaaaaaahhhhhh! I want my money that isn't mine! :D

I have never used Scent Lok and probably won't but I've read the details of this lawsuit and what they're claiming Scent Lok falsely claimed and its abunch of hogwash. What's next, are we going to start sueing scent companies because we didn't see a huge buck over our mock scrape. Must not perform as advertised. I'm gonna sue! Ridiculous.....Where's the tylenol?!@#?!Q???

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If they are lieing why shouldn't they get sued?

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I agree with you on law suits that make no sense. However, I don't agree with you on this one. If they can prove that it doesn't work as advertised, then if they get suied, so be it.

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YA BUT DID THEY JUST COME FROM WORK THROW ON THE CLOTHS AND EXPECT NOT TO BE DETECTED.WERE THEY OUT BOOZING THE NIGHT BEFORE?DID THEY EAT CHILI AND SPICEY FOOD?OR PASSING GAS?DO ANY OF THEM SMOKE?THE LIST GOES ON...THECOMPANY STATES DOWNWIND IT DOSNT SAY UPWIND.
THE ONLY THING i HAVE IS A FACEMASK DUE TO THE FACT i SMOKE BUT ONLY USE IT IN THE COLD.
tHEN WE WONDER WHY EVERYTHING COST SO MUCH......

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It was only a matter of time.


The beginning of the end.



Hope everyone saved their receipts ;)

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what r the details

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come on man, are you joking?

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I don't use the stuff although the material itself looks to be high quality. Having said that, I don't agree with suing them. I also believe it cannot be proved 100% that it can't work. Perhaps after this is all over some wording will be changed in ads.

I could think of several claims by many different companies selling things that could be brought into question.

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every new hunting item could be brought into question. sue crazy people are killing this country's economy.this is why it's so expensive for insurance and healthcare now.people that do this are no different than able-bodied men standing on the corner looking for handouts.

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[:@][:@][:@][:@]. this subjects gonna get me all bent out of shape

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You don't believe fraud (if proven) should be punished?

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fraud? you've got to be kidding! everything in the hunting industry can be debated. nothing is "proven". what works for some may not work for others.I think I'm gonna sue tylenol because it's not really helping me with the headache that this thread has given me.if nobody puts an end to this out of control, sue my neighbor mentality, no one will ever want to invent and market anything for fear of being sued.

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Really??............give us some examples.


Perhaps you should look into what fraud does to those insurance and healthcare costs you speak of.

You really believe that consumer fraud (alleged) is good for the economy??


Wow..........a hard working guy who saves up some money to buy something based on fraudulent claims (alleged) hardly seems the same to me. How you see the corporation as the victim here is strange to say the least (if the accusations are proven to be true).

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A lawyer friend once told me he could make anyones life misrable for a hundred and fifty bucks. Seems some petty individuals who can't weasel info out of scentlok have popped for the fee.

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If the government won't stop them from making false claims and false advertising I guess these guys or gals thought they'd take care of it. Perhaps they did ask Scent Lok for a refund??? Who knows. At any rate, somewhere in here probably "Buyer Beware" will come in to play and it'll go away. Scent Lok has got big pockets and can drag this out for years. They can over load the system with truck loads of data, testimonials etc and just make a mess of it. I think it's snake oil but am not about to waste my time worrying about it. I simply refuse to buy anything with scent lok, blocker or whatever in it. I refuse to pay for a pair of boots that have it in. If I have to I'll go to an Army surplus store for camo. Just as long as it has some color and pattern it'll work. Heck, plaid works.

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Its all in how they worded it. If they said something like "Helps reduce odor" instead of "Odor eliminating technology" they would have been fine. I personally think being sued is un-called for however and Im not a big fan of scent clothing. I know it has to help some.

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You are missing the KEY point in all this..........the other companies are smart enough to know NOT to make those claims in print or even verbally. The imply their product will help........not insist it will as a fact.


Tylenol IS proven to do just that..........they couldn't and wouldn't claim to if it wasn't. That is a major role of the FDA.........to insure products do what they claim to. That is why herbals and supplements are not allowed by law to make health claims.........because it is not proven in scientific controlled studies.


Don't make claims that your product can't live up to and you will not get sued.

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This is a class action suit, so they plantiffs will only be able to recover about 2% of total value of garments they purchases. The goal of a class action suit is to let everyone that purchased scent lok be able recover the money that is owed to them, not just the plantiffs.

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Here is someone I recognize from some previous posts on this web site. This was copied from the article.


And a Minnesotan -- T.R. Michels, 57, of Burnsville, an outdoor writer, author, hunting guide and frequent hunting seminar speaker who has his own website (www.trmichels.com) -- acknowledges he is responsible for raising much of the stink.
"Hunters have been screwed," he said. "They have been misled. And they [companies] are making tons of money off the stuff."
He said he has no ax to grind and began looking at the clothing because his job as a writer and outdoor expert is to "look into myths and dispell them."
Said Michels: "I was lied to, and that really ticked me off."
He is not involved in the lawsuit, and won't be because, while he has used Scent-Lok clothing, he's never purchased it, he said. However, Michels has questioned the performance of the clothing with the U.S. Patent Office and has posted numerous exchanges he's had with the company on his website and others.

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cover scents, attractants,calls, the list goes on. if someone really wanted to, they could hire some weasel to find a way to take a cheap shot at any company.

A hard working man with any sense or respect at all knows that nothing in the hunting industry is guaranteed 100%.I have a sneaking suspicion that these guys from minnesota have neither of these qualities.

are you a lawyer?

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Everyone should sue Ford if their new same model can't tow 10,000 lbs up an incline as on tv.

Anyone who buys a new bow model setup exactly the same as in an ad should sue the company if their bow doesn't reach the advertised IBO speed.

If your string loop breaks and pops you in the nose, sue the person(even yourself) who tied it and/or the maker of the loop material.

If you miss a world class buck sue the bow, arrow, sight, release, broadhead, stabilizer, clothing, scent lure, and tree stand manufacturers because they cost you money Cabelas or Bass Pro would have offered. If you wear glasses sue the optometrist(sp) as well. This should be done especiallyif you are a "professional" archer.

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Some how I knew this guy was involved. Well maybe this will be his "last stand".

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They have made millions off a lie.Why not sue them if you spend your money and the product turns out to be lemon.All i can say is it is about time I hope they put scent-lok out of business.I never have bought their product because I never did buy what they where claiming,but some people really believe what they see on tv and print.It is just like all those miricle diet pills out there that claim anyone can lose weight simply by taking a pill,if that was the case there would'nt be a fat person in the world.maybe a lawsuit won over a company like scent-lok then companies would be made to stop the false advertising for the sack of making a buck.

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it seems that this thread is going to turn into the classic "scentlok bashing thread" instead of focusing on the fact that this is about morals and personal character.

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so spooker if you sue someone you have no morals,but a company can make false claims about a product and that is not immoral,and if someone does'nt stand up to them they will continue untill to do so.I don't think so.I hope those guys winn their suit and make an example out of them so other companies will think twice before making false claims for the sake of a buck.

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I see that you have a lot of experience with scentlok and their "false claims"

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That's because I have learned the hard way not to believe what everyone is trying to sell you,come on do you believe that bs slogan of theirs."forget the wind just hunt" give me a break.that's like biologic is scientifctly proven to attract deer.yea it may attract deer but proven by science? yea right.Just because I don't buy into all these marketing ploys does'nt mean others arn't.

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you sure are quick to take up sides on something you haven't personally used.I was skeptical myself at first,but I've had nothing but good experiences w/ scentlok, to a reasonable extent. this is a fight that will never be won by these minnesota characters anyways. It's just a shame that our legal system will even waste it's resources and time on something so foolish. you won't believe this. i just had to go to my truck in the rain and i got wet. i think i'll sue the maker of my rain jacket tomorrow.

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There are as many claims it does work as there are it doesn't. The claims that it doesn't work are mainly limited to those who have had what they feel as a bad experience, the remainder who haven't used it simply add fuel to the fire.

I've been using it since it came out. I like the product and I personally feels it works to a degree.
Enough of a degree that I will continue to use it. The slob hunters that refuse to follow a scent reduction regimine are the biggest nay-sayers. If you fail to follow some simple guidelines when using "any" product that carries a claim of high expectation, you should realize if you don't follow the guidelines the product more than likely will not yield what the product claim advertises.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, flame me because I spent money that you personally wouldn't have.

So, because you prefer not to use/buy it, no one should because for some inept reason, proof needs to be shown to you before you would give your "personal endorsement".

Self-proclaimed consumer advocates are around every corner and those opinions are like headaches...eventually they'll go away.

I lump all of those people in the same category as an extremist group like PETA.

Sorry....that's MY opinion.

Flame away if you feel it will amount to more than a hill of beans.

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Well I use it and not to the best of its ability some times, but can you really blame that on the company, thats whats wrong with this country in the first place we all want toblame someone else for our failures. I don't believe scentloc works every time on every deer but if it puts a few more deer in range per hunting season wich I believe it does it's well worth the cost.

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I'm not going to argue with you.I've stated my opinions and you've stated you'rs.I respect your opinion and we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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alright buddy, i didn't mean to come off as i was singling you out. it's just kind of a touchy subject since my family was sued.everyone has a right to their own opinions and i respect yours as well.

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That slogan belongs to SCENT BLOCKER....not Scent-Lok

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It seems to work for me, however,I don't get sucked into all the hype either. I wouldn't dream of just throwing on some scent-lok and hunting. I still shower to reduce odor and I pay attention to the wind as well. I feel that it helps to a degree and I'll continue to use it.

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This TR guy has a grudge against SL. He is the same guy that tried to have SL bribehim to keep quiet. When they did not do so he played the "I was just trying to show what type company they are"card[:'(]

TR is a joke, he is not sueing for hunters. He is suing for himself and his personel Grudge. Please MR. TR keep this hunter out of it. I think there are more important things to worry about.

While in KY I met a soldier who was getting his hunting in, he is on his way back for his 3rd tour in Iraq.

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Its like the guy said this is going to be a perfect opportunity to finally prove themselves once and for all. And if they do thats great im happy for them. I dont use the stuff....way outa my budget but tahts not the reason anyway, just mho, BUT if it is a lie, scam, fraud, whatever then why should they be aloud to keep taking Americans hard earned money?? Im not sayin sueing the right way to goand those guys are really going to hands full. But like i said if Scent-Lok really works then they should have no problem with it and this should set everyone straight once and for all.

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I agree Germ there are lots more important things to worry bout....will be interesting to see how it plays out though.

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Exactly what you should do. And I do these things as well.

Qoute from the news article:
"The suit doesn't cite any independent testing done on the clothing that shows it doesn't work."

Maybe we'll get some!!!