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Old 09-11-2007 | 11:15 AM
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My one defense of Keith Warren is that he does take the time every episode to thank the military personnel, and from my perspective that happens way too infrequently. He is not necessarily a terrible person because he enjoys something that you do not.

As far as outfitters go, Ilove outfitters. How else could I hunt caribou? I don't have access to a floatplane, or a camp set up waiting for me and I don't have the time or $ toget all the camping equipment and set it up myself. Also, Ichoose to go with outfitters for elkbecause I don't have to worry about food or shelter and I get to just focus on hunting.However, I would NEVER, NEVER go with an outfitter that would charge me more for shooting a trophy class animal. If it is fair chase, then a caribou is a caribou, an elk is an elk, a deer is a deer and the cost should not be affected by the size.
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Old 09-11-2007 | 11:27 AM
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Do any outfitters offer any service for poor people who love to hunt, hahaha LOL
Probably not, the almighty dollar is what its about. I think the selling of game animals should be illegal, high fencing should be too. Game animals are a natural resource and belong to the people of the state, just as damning a creek would be illegal so should damning deer.
I live in texas and we have no public land to speak of, land owners get ridiculous prices for hunting, so much so I cant afford it anymore, its gotten way out of hand.
Outfitters are ruining the fishing here as well, years ago fisherman would fish and sell the fish to restraunts, the state made it illegal to sell gamefish so fisherman here didnt know what to do, well they started guiding, now they fish 7 days a week taking clients out catching boatloads of fish a day depleting the fishing on the texas coast big time, the states answer is to raise size limits and reduce bag limits, who pays again ? Me, the average joe.
It goes beyond that, its a vicious cycle, guides need bait and lots of it, so shrimpers troll non-stop to meet the demand of baitfish needed to supply the hundreds of guides that litter the Texas coast. well shrimpers kill fish, lots of fish, again depleting the natural resource, who pays, me.

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Old 09-11-2007 | 11:31 AM
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As far as outfitters go, Ilove outfitters. How else could I hunt caribou? I don't have access to a floatplane, or a camp set up waiting for me and I don't have the time or $ toget all the camping equipment and set it up myself. Also, Ichoose to go with outfitters for elkbecause I don't have to worry about food or shelter and I get to just focus on hunting.However, I would NEVER, NEVER go with an outfitter that would charge me more for shooting a trophy class animal. If it is fair chase, then a caribou is a caribou, an elk is an elk, a deer is a deer and the cost should not be affected by the size.
I DO NOT have a problem with this type of guiding, but when you start topay per inch, well this is exactly where the problem begins, selling of game animals should be illegal.
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Old 09-11-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Do any outfitters offer any service for poor people who love to hunt, hahaha LOL
Does Best Buy offer service for poor people who like 50'' Plasma's?

selling of game animals should be illegal.
Most states onces you fence it in the animals are not game animals they are live stock. Hard pill to swallow, but if a land owner wants to fence it their land and pay all the fee that go with it. It is their right, we all have to make money.

I for one to not want to stomp on land owners rights, it's a slippery slope from there
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Old 09-11-2007 | 12:11 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been covered. If you shoot the deer in a high fence preserve would it still qualify for P&Y? If so thats a crock cuz P&Y and B&C are for fair chase or am I naive?
Both P & Y and B&C require the animal to be fairchase. Which would not include a fence. They also require a witness to attest to it.
I was at the Deer convention, back inFebruaryin Collinsville and entered several heads andI didn't bring any witnesses for mine to be scored and entered. They were wondering why they had "collar looking" burns around there necks though. Just kidding! I have one low fence on my road and they can jump that one.
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Old 09-11-2007 | 12:20 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been covered. If you shoot the deer in a high fence preserve would it still qualify for P&Y? If so thats a crock cuz P&Y and B&C are for fair chase or am I naive?
Both P & Y and B&C require the animal to be fairchase. Which would not include a fence. They also require a witness to attest to it.
I was at the Deer convention, back inFebruaryin Collinsville and entered several heads andI didn't bring any witnesses for mine to be scored and entered.
Yes we hunters are men of honor We would never put a buck in the books that did not belong there
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Old 09-11-2007 | 12:30 PM
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If you really want to "get the news out" about your feeling of this and other shows like this...Inform the SPONSORS of your opinions...the only reason these shows exist is because of sponsorship $$...If the sponsors felt that mr Warren is putting out the wrong product ( per watchers opinions) than the sponsors need to perk up and re evaluate there sponsorships to these types of shows...Mr warren will not have a show if the sponsors pull back the $$ and invest it elsewhere...JMO
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Old 09-11-2007 | 12:49 PM
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Do any outfitters offer any service for poor people who love to hunt, hahaha LOL
Does Best Buy offer service for poor people who like 50'' Plasma's?

selling of game animals should be illegal.
Most states onces you fence it in the animals are not game animals they are live stock. Hard pill to swallow, but if a land owner wants to fence it their land and pay all the fee that go with it. It is their right, we all have to make money.

I for one to not want to stomp on land owners rights, it's a slippery slope from there

Bull if it they were live stock state regulations would not apply, and we know they do, native animals never become live stock, exotics do.
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Old 09-11-2007 | 01:02 PM
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Do any outfitters offer any service for poor people who love to hunt, hahaha LOL
Does Best Buy offer service for poor people who like 50'' Plasma's?

selling of game animals should be illegal.
Most states onces you fence it in the animals are not game animals they are live stock. Hard pill to swallow, but if a land owner wants to fence it their land and pay all the fee that go with it. It is their right, we all have to make money.

I for one to not want to stomp on land owners rights, it's a slippery slope from there

Bull if it they were live stock state regulations would not apply, and we know they do, native animals never become live stock, exotics do.
In MI game laws do not take place. In a HF ranch I do not have to tag the animal I kill.

All states are different, In MI control of these ranches are under Ag control, not the DNR.

Deer in HF ranch in MI are owned by the ranch. There just live stock like cattle.

It is what it is
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Old 09-11-2007 | 01:07 PM
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put in the time, sweat, heart ache, tears, free range, out smart them in there own living room, i wouldnt do it any other way. my .02 cents.
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