Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
09-23-2007, 07:41 PM
#51
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
ORIGINAL: dragonslayer1
You got it, MJ. Here in North Florida in bow season you'd better be on the blood trail pretty quick. Our woods are absolutely infested with bears and it is rare that a dead deer will make it 'till morning without being devoured. If it does, there's a good chance it will be bloated and spoiled. I even had a grey fox eat a large portion of a ham off a deer I didn't find until a couple hours after dark, would've thought it was a 'yote if I hadn't seen him. Anybody else ever had a fox eat part of a deer?
You got it, MJ. Here in North Florida in bow season you'd better be on the blood trail pretty quick. Our woods are absolutely infested with bears and it is rare that a dead deer will make it 'till morning without being devoured. If it does, there's a good chance it will be bloated and spoiled. I even had a grey fox eat a large portion of a ham off a deer I didn't find until a couple hours after dark, would've thought it was a 'yote if I hadn't seen him. Anybody else ever had a fox eat part of a deer?
09-24-2007, 11:58 AM
#53
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Smith Center,Ks
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
agreed, since we'll be filming, ill just watch the tape. but if its too close to call, im pulling out. finding a deer with spoiled meat, is ALOT better than not finding one at all.
ORIGINAL: TEmbry15
agreed, since we'll be filming, ill just watch the tape. but if its too close to call, im pulling out. finding a deer with spoiled meat, is ALOT better than not finding one at all.
ORIGINAL: LebeauHunter
The toughest scenario to me would be an unsure shot at dusk and its 80+ degrees. Knowing the meat
probably won't be good in the morning would make that a tough call.
The toughest scenario to me would be an unsure shot at dusk and its 80+ degrees. Knowing the meat
probably won't be good in the morning would make that a tough call.
09-27-2007, 10:57 AM
#54
Join Date: Dec 2006
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
I'd agree with Davidmil, and our moderator. I'm nota big advocate of waiting (my handle notwithstanding), especially in warm weather. I lost a deer to predators once that I left overnight, and I know that it died within minutes of the shot. I think broadhead design and sharpness should be emphasized more. I've been using bear razorheads for 15 years, and swear by them. I've recovered many deer that would be considered to be marginally hit. I sharpen the razorheads myself, and I'll admit that they are not always 100% perfect(sometimes the edge gets slightly deteriorated just from hunting), but they really do a good job. I never shoot a broadhead that has been shot and not resharpened. Another strong point to emphasize is not to give up on the blood trail. Often if you can't easily find blood it is tempting to just look for the deer. In most cases it is better to get down on the ground, find the blood and follow it. There will usually be blood if you look close enough. Having said that, I've recovered a couple of deer where I never found any blood. If you're sure of a good hit and you are using good sharp broadheads, don't doubt - just go find that animal. I'm always mystified by the horror stories, of people making good hits then jumping the deer hours later, not recovering them. It has never happened to me with a razorhead. It has been my experience that they die quickly or not at all.
09-27-2007, 02:12 PM
#55
Typical Buck
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
Great post Rob!
I would like to ask though, what kind of hit would require you to "bleed out" a deer.
Also, you were saying about a deers lungs working in a negative pressure environment, how does this make it possible for a deer to survive a single lung hit? Wouldnt both lungs collapse when the arrow penetrated the thoracic cavity?
I would like to ask though, what kind of hit would require you to "bleed out" a deer.
Also, you were saying about a deers lungs working in a negative pressure environment, how does this make it possible for a deer to survive a single lung hit? Wouldnt both lungs collapse when the arrow penetrated the thoracic cavity?
09-27-2007, 06:09 PM
#56
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
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Great post Rob!
Great post Rob!
I would like to ask though, what kind of hit would require you to "bleed out" a deer.
Also, you were saying about a deers lungs working in a negative pressure environment, how does this make it possible for a deer to survive a single lung hit? Wouldnt both lungs collapse when the arrow penetrated the thoracic cavity?
10-04-2007, 10:55 PM
#57
Spike
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northeastern Ohio
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
hey guys.. my first post.... but ive been reading this forum for almost 2 years. . . just wanted to say hello. i am a fellow bowhunter from Northeastern Ohio.... 30min from Cleveland ( go tribe!) . . I have been bowhunting and bowfishing for about 15yrs. . .
i have always been a big advocate on using a game tracker string attached to my arrow... i know i know... its outdated ..blah blah blah.. though, ive never shot a whitetail further than 18yds... so i enjoy having the aide there while tracking. it doesnt impact my flight to 25yds either.
anyways, heres a little military tip used to search for a blood trail on your next venture. we all know that peroxide will work... ive used that dozens of times on morning hunts in daylight.... but at night time, the age-old tactic was always a coleman lantern which makes blood 'glow' in its light...to a degree it works.
well a more modern tactic im surprised no one has said is UV LIGHT , or ultraviolet light (purple black light) to aide in tracking. .
it has been used for decades by the military and by forensic searches in crime scenes(and nasty hotel rooms) to detect bodily fluids. i just picked up a new 51 LED UV flashlight for 15$ .. . tracked a doe with it last saturday night... and the results are ridiculous! the beam is like a large flood beam rather than a narrow maglite.
in northern ohio, our fall started real early this year, and leaves are turning early so it is dificult to see blood with a backdrop of red leaves. .. try the light. . sorry if this is a repost. . . happy slaying!
i have always been a big advocate on using a game tracker string attached to my arrow... i know i know... its outdated ..blah blah blah.. though, ive never shot a whitetail further than 18yds... so i enjoy having the aide there while tracking. it doesnt impact my flight to 25yds either.
anyways, heres a little military tip used to search for a blood trail on your next venture. we all know that peroxide will work... ive used that dozens of times on morning hunts in daylight.... but at night time, the age-old tactic was always a coleman lantern which makes blood 'glow' in its light...to a degree it works.
well a more modern tactic im surprised no one has said is UV LIGHT , or ultraviolet light (purple black light) to aide in tracking. .
it has been used for decades by the military and by forensic searches in crime scenes(and nasty hotel rooms) to detect bodily fluids. i just picked up a new 51 LED UV flashlight for 15$ .. . tracked a doe with it last saturday night... and the results are ridiculous! the beam is like a large flood beam rather than a narrow maglite.
in northern ohio, our fall started real early this year, and leaves are turning early so it is dificult to see blood with a backdrop of red leaves. .. try the light. . sorry if this is a repost. . . happy slaying!
10-05-2007, 06:20 AM
#58
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
ORIGINAL: italianjeremy
hey guys.. my first post.... but ive been reading this forum for almost 2 years. . . just wanted to say hello. i am a fellow bowhunter from Northeastern Ohio.... 30min from Cleveland ( go tribe!) . . I have been bowhunting and bowfishing for about 15yrs. . .
i have always been a big advocate on using a game tracker string attached to my arrow... i know i know... its outdated ..blah blah blah.. though, ive never shot a whitetail further than 18yds... so i enjoy having the aide there while tracking. it doesnt impact my flight to 25yds either.
anyways, heres a little military tip used to search for a blood trail on your next venture. we all know that peroxide will work... ive used that dozens of times on morning hunts in daylight.... but at night time, the age-old tactic was always a coleman lantern which makes blood 'glow' in its light...to a degree it works.
well a more modern tactic im surprised no one has said is UV LIGHT , or ultraviolet light (purple black light) to aide in tracking. .
it has been used for decades by the military and by forensic searches in crime scenes(and nasty hotel rooms) to detect bodily fluids. i just picked up a new 51 LED UV flashlight for 15$ .. . tracked a doe with it last saturday night... and the results are ridiculous! the beam is like a large flood beam rather than a narrow maglite.
in northern ohio, our fall started real early this year, and leaves are turning early so it is dificult to see blood with a backdrop of red leaves. .. try the light. . sorry if this is a repost. . . happy slaying!
hey guys.. my first post.... but ive been reading this forum for almost 2 years. . . just wanted to say hello. i am a fellow bowhunter from Northeastern Ohio.... 30min from Cleveland ( go tribe!) . . I have been bowhunting and bowfishing for about 15yrs. . .
i have always been a big advocate on using a game tracker string attached to my arrow... i know i know... its outdated ..blah blah blah.. though, ive never shot a whitetail further than 18yds... so i enjoy having the aide there while tracking. it doesnt impact my flight to 25yds either.
anyways, heres a little military tip used to search for a blood trail on your next venture. we all know that peroxide will work... ive used that dozens of times on morning hunts in daylight.... but at night time, the age-old tactic was always a coleman lantern which makes blood 'glow' in its light...to a degree it works.
well a more modern tactic im surprised no one has said is UV LIGHT , or ultraviolet light (purple black light) to aide in tracking. .
it has been used for decades by the military and by forensic searches in crime scenes(and nasty hotel rooms) to detect bodily fluids. i just picked up a new 51 LED UV flashlight for 15$ .. . tracked a doe with it last saturday night... and the results are ridiculous! the beam is like a large flood beam rather than a narrow maglite.
in northern ohio, our fall started real early this year, and leaves are turning early so it is dificult to see blood with a backdrop of red leaves. .. try the light. . sorry if this is a repost. . . happy slaying!
10-05-2007, 07:47 AM
#59
Spike
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northeastern Ohio
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
Great advice, I don't believe it was touched on before. That's why I love this thread, lots of tips and I learn something every year.
yeah, you can find the flashlights on ebay for under 20$ theyre fun to play around with in the house too... youde be surprised what you can find! but itll light up blood immensely. be sure to get one with atleast 30 led's
10-05-2007, 08:46 AM
#60
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Recovery, What to do After the Shot.
Don't forget the most important task after the shot! Call someone form HNI to get the word out, and start the pre-post, Pre-pic,feeding frenzy