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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:10 AM
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Gary.....most guys in your camp don't want to talk. They want to cram their ideaology down everyone's throats. "Work together"??? Who's asking for help? I don't see anyone asking? I see a lot of "telling", though.
Jeff, while this may be true in many cases, I think that the "telling" is borne out of frustration. We all know that for a buck to reach trophy status it must be allowed to age. For those that want to hunt a trophy buck, but don't have the means to own land or access exclusive private property or leases, they have to try to work with other hunters. When their initial suggestion is met with, "I'll shoot what I want." they have to turn to trying to convince the others to see things their way. When this is met with resistance it causes preaching and animosity.

It's easy not to preach when you're not the trophy hunter, all you have to do is pull a trigger.
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:13 AM
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Love it , I shoot the deer I want too , but like the double bull guy's moto ,,,,,," KILLING TOMAROWS TROPHIES TODAY"
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:16 AM
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But my question is why is "NO" never enough? On this board 100 times a year this topic comes up and as far as I know noones mind has been changed but yet the "trophy hunters" keep trying. I'm neither for or against "trophy hunting" but I refuse to let someone that doesn't know one thing about me tell me that I'm less of a man of hunter because I don't let every deer accept mature bucks walk past me.
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:31 AM
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For those that want to hunt a trophy buck, but don't have the means to own land or access exclusive private property or leases, they have to try to work with other hunters. When their initial suggestion is met with, "I'll shoot what I want." they have to turn to trying to convince the others to see things their way. When this is met with resistance it causes preaching and animosity.

It's easy not to preach when you're not the trophy hunter, all you have to do is pull a trigger.
As I understand what you are saying you think that others should change the way they enjoy hunting to appease the trophy hunters and if they are resistant to changing the way they enjoy hunting then it causes preaching and animosity from the trophy hunters?
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:39 AM
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When their initial suggestion is met with, "I'll shoot what I want." they have to turn to trying to convince the others to see things their way. When this is met with resistance it causes preaching and animosity.
I think gutshot nailed what I was going to say. I'm all for everyone being educated on the subject. I'm the epitomy(sp?) of a whitetail sponge right now....trying to soak up everything I can. When you run across people though.....that are
"I'll shoot what I want."
.....it seems the next logical step would be to ask them "well.....what if I told you there was a way you could shoot more mature, larger racked deer?" (an admitted side-effect of QDM).

If they are all ears......you may have a "candidate". People just need to learn that when the guy ISN'T all ears.......they are pissin in the wind......AND....there's nothing wrong with the guy's point of view.
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:45 AM
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Cant you all just get along Hmmmm! Sing along with me now.
Im so pretty.......Oh so pretty!!! [:-]
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:48 AM
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Nobody's arguing, here......it's a heckuva civil discussion if you asked me.


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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:49 AM
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Jeff, while this may be true in many cases, I think that the "telling" is borne out of frustration.
What a twisted perspective.............what is so hard to understand about "NO"???

When someone resorts to forcing their opinion on you after they "asked" you and heard "NO"...........it is clear they weren't really "asking" in the first place


We all know that for a buck to reach trophy status it must be allowed to age. For those that want to hunt a trophy buck, but don't have the means to own land or access exclusive private property or leases, they have to try to work with other hunters.
Or just go find the ones that are out there and get killed EVERY year. Do you REALLY need to kill a big buck EVERY year to feel like hunting is "good" or the way it should be???..........man, the ADHD, Drive-Thru, instant gratification mindset of some people makes me wonder where we are headed.


When their initial suggestion is met with, "I'll shoot what I want." they have to turn to trying to convince the others to see things their way. When this is met with resistance it causes preaching and animosity.
How about just accepting the fact that you are speaking to another adult who is fully capable of making up his own mind and forming his own opinions.............if I tell you "NO".......I mean "NO"..........that is NOT an invitation for you to try and convince me of anything or educate me as to why I am wrong..........It just means "NO". The more you push the subject the worse it gets.

I feel like I am talking to children or freakin' Jehovah's witnesses here.............you guys are about 1/2 a step above a used car salesman on the food chain.

Start listening.


It's easy not to preach when you're not the trophy hunter, all you have to do is pull a trigger.
Poor you
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:50 AM
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I agree!
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Old 08-20-2007 | 11:50 AM
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You know, I was sitting here eating pretzels and enjoying the tennis match until I read this one and for some reason it got to me.

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Gary.....most guys in your camp don't want to talk. They want to cram their ideaology down everyone's throats. "Work together"??? Who's asking for help? I don't see anyone asking? I see a lot of "telling", though.
Jeff, while this may be true in many cases, I think that the "telling" is borne out of frustration. We all know that for a buck to reach trophy status it must be allowed to age. For those that want to hunt a trophy buck, but don't have the means to own land or access exclusive private property or leases, they have to try to work with other hunters. When their initial suggestion is met with, "I'll shoot what I want." they have to turn to trying to convince the others to see things their way. When this is met with resistance it causes preaching and animosity.

It's easy not to preach when you're not the trophy hunter, all you have to do is pull a trigger.
HuntingBry, I'm not trying to poke at you or anyone else on here, please don't take this personally, but its smarmy parting shots like this that will turn people off. If people are from the Brown/Down clan or QDM clan, it doesn't matter, you reap what you sow.

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