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statjunk 08-24-2007 07:10 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: atlasman

Now that I told you about my background on the subject I will ask you to do the same. What educational background and experience level do you have with carbon?

Repeat for archer............Once again the silence is deafening ;)

For someone who questions other people's experience and knowledge of this topic as a validation of credibility.........you sure clammed up in a hurry when I asked you about yours ;)

I don't understand archer..........you questioned my background and experience as a way to challenge my credibilty so I responded to ease your concerns.

Why are you unwilling to do the same??




Cue the crickets.
His father was coal miner, he married the coal miners daughter and he knew a guy once that carried a lump of coal tucked in the crack of his a$_$ trying to make diamond. He's also slept at a Holiday Inn several times. Even on consecutive nights.

Tom

lars 08-24-2007 09:36 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
It is not a must if you want to kill young deer. The hygeine thing is the most important. If you plan on scoring on mature deer.... I feel it is an absolute must. I will wear several layers during certain times of the fall. At least get yourself a face mask and a coverall. For $100 you can be truly "scent- free".

hardcorehunter 08-24-2007 09:38 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: lars

For $100 you can be truly "scent- free".
LMAO!!!

MN/Kyle 08-24-2007 11:02 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: manuman

Another hit and run artist?
a lot of those lately

Pupuchito 08-24-2007 11:07 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
I use Scent-lok, but I don't think it is a must, but I do wear it whenever I hunt. It is just another layerof protection in my opinion, and when I fart when wearing it, I can't smell my farts. You don't need more proof than that..LOL

atlasman 08-24-2007 11:19 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
I guess archer58 has chosen to ignore me (and this thread) now............how funny since that is the EXACT thing he bashed someone else for doing.

Funny how this ALWAYS seems to happen when you call someone's bluff and ask them to validate their "opinion" about carbon.


It's OK that you don't know what you are talking about archer..........you just should not have pretended you did ;)

GregH 08-25-2007 07:42 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman

I guess archer58 has chosen to ignore me (and this thread)

Ya think!!??

You have some world class mental power going on there Atlas. [:-]

Let it go, dude. That's gospel.

atlasman 08-25-2007 09:09 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: GregH


ORIGINAL: atlasman

I guess archer58 has chosen to ignore me (and this thread)

Ya think!!??

You have some world class mental power going on there Atlas. [:-]

Let it go, dude. That's gospel.

When someone asks you a question to prove your credibility and you answer honestly...............only to get the silent treatment when you request the same it's pretty obvious who is able to back up what they say.........and who was just making it up as he went along.



archer58 08-25-2007 09:25 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman

I guess archer58 has chosen to ignore me (and this thread) now............how funny since that is the EXACT thing he bashed someone else for doing.

Funny how this ALWAYS seems to happen when you call someone's bluff and ask them to validate their "opinion" about carbon.


It's OK that you don't know what you are talking about archer..........you just should not have pretended you did ;)
I'm not hiding from you. I had a personal matter to attend to. If you want to know why....check the "Team 4 " thread.
Now, What's on your mind atlas? I 'll be working out this morning , but I'll check this thread between sets>

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-25-2007 09:27 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

........and who was just making it up as he went along.
I know.





Mdbowhunter16 08-25-2007 09:32 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Nope![:'(]

bhunter50 08-25-2007 09:58 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
i dont know if anyone touched on this or not, of you that use them, do you think the deer can smell the suit, i seem to think my suit has an aroma to it that i know if i can smell ita deer can certainly smell it. what do you guys think, i have a suit and wonder sometimes, although i dont usually get busted often.

Planter 08-25-2007 10:26 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
I have enough camo that Iput a days worth of clothes in a plastic bag after washing it in scent away soap and have the bags separated into cold vs warm weather. I end up with 5 or 6 full set-ups ready to go.
I also use coveralls alot and don't put them on until I am in the woods. I also use nothing but scent free soap on ALL my clothes as the season nears.
Play the wind right and you can smell like an old goat anyway..

archer58 08-25-2007 10:53 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Atlas,
I seem to be a target in this thread. At least your latest target. I'm not going to try and match wits w/ you. You are much more intelligent than I.
I wanted to know what your expierence was w/activated carbon because you seemed to be privy to information that the rest of uswere not.It was not meant to disscredit you or what you were saying.
You want to know my background? In this case, you want to know if I have any scientific knowledge of activated carbon.
I do not...and never said I did.
I am , however , intelligent enough to understand and comprehend what I read , in scientific terms.I may be one of the few poeple in the world who keepshis Chemistry and Physics texts from college.(1976 if youneed know).

In your infinate knowledge of this subjet, you see flaws. You are saying that according to your expierence that activated carbon cannot be reactivated. That's what your findings say.
On the other hand, we have results from another lab that says it can be reactivated.

The debate goes on...I guess we'll never know. As someone stated earlier in this thread...science can prove or disprove anything.It can depend on the testing procedures and the intended applicationsas you know.

My expierence w/ SL has been in the woods. I used to get busted alot.
Since I began using it, I have NEVER been busted due to scent. That's 10 years worth of woods time. If it did not work for me I would not spend the $. No one gives ME a free suit to wear. I'm don't like wasting $. Just ask my wife.









FroMan 08-25-2007 03:15 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
I haven't ever been able to afford it. I've killed deer without it, but who knows how many of deer I would've killed with it.

I always spray down with Scent Killer, but have never actually used carbon-activated clothing.

GMMAT 08-25-2007 06:34 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Let's just have everyone who's commented on the stuff (including the Dr. from NC State and the chemist) list their credentials.

He who has the most initials after his name, wins.

atlasman 08-26-2007 12:47 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

Atlas,
I seem to be a target in this thread. At least your latest target.
Not at all...........You asked, I answered.......I asked, you left.




you seemed to be privy to information that the rest of uswere not.
Not true.



It was not meant to disscredit you or what you were saying.
If you say so.



You want to know my background? In this case, you want to know if I have any scientific knowledge of activated carbon.
I do not...and never said I did.
I know..........that's why I have said all along that it is difficult to have this conversation.



I am , however , intelligent enough to understand and comprehend what I read , in scientific terms.I may be one of the few poeple in the world who keepshis Chemistry and Physics texts from college.(1976 if youneed know).
I took a Spanish class in high school once too.......I even remember a few words here and there. Stick me in a room full of people speaking Spanish and I will be lost............only picking up tidbits of info that sound familiar but not really understanding what is being said.



You are saying that according to your expierence that activated carbon cannot be reactivated. That's what your findings say.
In a dryer???........No..........and they aren't my findings.



On the other hand, we have results from another lab that says it can be reactivated.
Again we fall into a useless debate..........you are trying to pit the immutable laws of Science against info put out by a company through a lab that has been fined millions of dollars for falsifying results in the past.

Hundreds of years of Science vs. a cheap infomercial.



The debate goes on...I guess we'll never know.
There is no debate.......we do know. Some choose to ignore facts and believe in fairy tales and marketing instead.

You can lead a horse to water..........



My expierence w/ SL has been in the woods. I used to get busted alot.
Since I began using it, I have NEVER been busted due to scent. That's 10 years worth of woods time. If it did not work for me I would not spend the $. No one gives ME a free suit to wear. I'm don't like wasting $. Just ask my wife.
I have a lucky pair of socks.........I don't associate magical powers that defy the laws of Science to them though.

peakrut 08-26-2007 02:41 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
That you know of in red but I would bet you have been and may not know it.

ORIGINAL: archer58


My expierence w/ SL has been in the woods. I used to get busted alot.
Since I began using it, I have NEVER been busted due to scent. That's 10 years worth of woods time. If it did not work for me I would not spend the $. No one gives ME a free suit to wear. I'm don't like wasting $. Just ask my wife.









peakrut 08-26-2007 02:42 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
SOB's got me into this again, I swear last time on this scent lok issue.

archer58 08-26-2007 08:22 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Alright Atlas,
Could you post a link on the peer reviews you mentionrd relevant to this discussion.
I would like to see the data you are considering relevant.


atlasman 08-26-2007 09:28 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

Alright Atlas,
Could you post a link on the peer reviews you mentionrd relevant to this discussion.
I would like to see the data you are considering relevant.

I guess you didn't understand my Spanish analogy.

archer58 08-26-2007 10:21 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman

I guess you didn't understand my Spanish analogy.
I understood. You're insulting my intelligence again.
Post the information.
Let's see what you are basing your arguement on.

atlasman 08-26-2007 01:03 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

I understood. You're insulting my intelligence again.
Quit acting like a baby.........if you understood you wouldn't have asked what you did.



Post the information.
Let's see what you are basing your arguement on.
The format of that question leaves zero doubt in my mind that it would be nothing more then a waste of time...........Why don't I just post the operating instructions for the robot arm of the space shuttle??............at least that way we would BOTH have no idea what was going on and probably be able to have a better discussion ;)

archer58 08-26-2007 02:51 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: archer58

I understood. You're insulting my intelligence again.
Quit acting like a baby.........if you understood you wouldn't have asked what you did.


What did I do???



Post the information.
Let's see what you are basing your arguement on.
The format of that question leaves zero doubt in my mind that it would be nothing more then a waste of time...........Why don't I just post the operating instructions for the robot arm of the space shuttle??............at least that way we would BOTH have no idea what was going on and probably be able to have a better discussion ;)
If not for me, for the edification of the forum.
I'm sure there's a chemist in our midst somewhere.

atlasman 08-26-2007 03:20 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

If not for me, for the edification of the forum.

Waste of time.................go read the Spanish analogy again ;)

archer58 08-26-2007 03:59 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
[/align][/align]You're just too funny.[/align]This thread has become a waste.[/align]

MN/Kyle 08-26-2007 04:08 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

This thread has become a waste.
about 10 pages ago

archer58 08-26-2007 04:09 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: outdoormafiaKP


ORIGINAL: archer58

This thread has become a waste.
about 10 pages ago
At least

LouisianaTomkat 08-26-2007 04:35 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Why has this post rambled on so much. I have seen a lot ofthreads never get 260+ posts and have much better info than "atasman's Scentlok Thread" here. I mean, face it, there is no more reason to bash Scentlok. The product can not hold up to it's claims as a "working" product. If it could, someone would have already ponied up the proof from outside sources. No one wants to spend the money and/or intelligence to prove Scentlok has been stealing millions of hard earned dollars from people each year. If someone would just get off there butt and do this, maybe a lot of people could rest better at night. I really wonder at this point whether or not a lawsuit should not be directed toward Scentlok and Scentblocker for false advertisement. I mean, after all, they do advertise that it can be regenerated in our dryer. This is totally false according to the scientific/military research that has been referenced here. So, who will be the one to start the lawsuit? atlasman? Hey, you seem to be pretty darn sure it is a lie. Or do you already have more money than you have time?

I for one, think the mod's here have let this thread go to long without accomplishing anything but taking up computer memory somewhere. Not bashing the mod's either. Just feel this whole thread has been a waste.

LT

atlasman 08-26-2007 05:28 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

You're just too funny.This thread has become a waste.


It was unavoidable..............it's like trying to teach someone to drive who doesn't know what a car is yet. This is exactly why I ignored you in Nick's thread...........trying to keep it from going down the drain.

shed33 08-26-2007 10:20 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Yes this is a waste, I will "LOK" it and be wearing it when I kill a big ole bruiser this fall... ;)sorry, couldnt resist guys...

Hey how many cotton t shirts can you wear6 days straightin 70-90 degree weather hiking your butt off in elevations from 5000 up to 8000 feet ...everyday and have it not stink like sweat..not once..my base layer shirt top...did as I put it to the test for the first time last week archery antelope hunting.... I was amazed... something has to be helping in that fabric guys, I am not going to get on here and make this up...

but hey how many of you that bash it..have ever put it to the test???? is it a cure all ..heck no..can it help, I believe so.. jm2c

Chet77 09-08-2007 02:33 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Just wanted to add to the list of no's and to mention the fact that the pro's use it b/c advertising makes them money. Otherwise they'd be doing the same thing as us. I agree with the fact that movement and noise are your worst enemies.

jsay 09-08-2007 02:55 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Well I am going against the overall theme here, but I truly believe it does work and I don't hunt with out it. My first 3 years of bowhunting, this is no lie, I got winded on a regular basis. My cousin can attest to this as one night we were sitting in trees on opposite sides of the field. When the night started the wind was great, but in PA the wind will often change directions as it did this night. I had a doe wind me from almost 100 yards away. My cousin said he has never seen anything like it. During those three years, if the wind was wrong, without fail I would get winded.
That was it for me, I purchased a scent lok suit, actually the Savanah series with base layers. In the last two years I have not been winded one time! Not once since I started wearing scent lok have I been winded. I have shot my last two bucks from directly down wind and have had many deer come in. I don't mean to sound like a commercial, but I know it works for me. I think I may be stinkier than most.

chucker34 09-08-2007 03:08 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Without reading all the other posts, I think it is what you make it. It can't hurt and if it improves your confidence and you can afford it, go for it. In addition to taking all the other scent avoiding precautions. You'll neve be scent free. It's fooling the deer into thinking you WERE there versus you ARE there.

BowHuntingFool 09-09-2007 09:17 AM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
I agree its a Waste of money!

Whitetail_Ent 10-01-2007 05:04 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Carbon clothing is too expensive. I "smoke up" my favorite camo using the Scent Smoker. It's a cover scent and scent eliminator. It's amazing how effective it is.

Justin 10-01-2007 05:15 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: Whitetail_Ent

Carbon clothing is too expensive. I "smoke up" my favorite camo using the Scent Smoker. It's a cover scent and scent eliminator. It's amazing how effective it is.

That's great an all, but if you want advertising for your business you'll have to pay for it like everyone else. ;)

And with that, this thread is locked. We've had enough Scent-Lok debates on here for a few weeks anyways.

guard099 08-20-2009 05:54 AM

waste of money to me just ask my father and grandfather who have harvested deer there whole lives with let alone camoflauge..just a gimmick

GRIZZLYMAN 08-20-2009 08:52 AM

No, SL is not a must or even a want for me.

crokit 08-20-2009 09:50 AM

...........NO.............


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