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08-14-2007 | 09:31 AM

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Charlie P

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RE: I always hear this story...

I see alot of people talking about swirling winds. I kept a diary on my hunting for a few years and you know what the best stand location was when the winds swirled?

My fishing boat.

08-14-2007 | 09:34 AM

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brucelanthier

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RE: I always hear this story...

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If you don't chase them they eventually just walk off having learned once again that a human is not necessarily a threat.

Well when I'm out there I am a threat.

LOL well I can't be until sept 15 but then..........

08-14-2007 | 09:35 AM

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GMMAT

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After growing up on a farm, and seeing the animals react to me working in the field or whileon heavy machinery as compared to say me trying to be stealthy while in a tree on the edge of a bedding area and getting winded.........the deer do react differently. I do believe deer can be conditioned to react in different ways to different types of disturbances and pressure.

Matt.....this and the rest of your thread I can also attest to. But....you were talking about getting down from a stand in hunting season....crossing a piece of property .....and climbing back up. "I" just happen to think the deer there see you as a threat no matter how you're walking.

Thats all I meant. I see deer around humans all the time. They're "fairly" tolerant UNTIL something out of the ordinary happens. Then...they're wilder than the farm deer/tractor scenario I can assure you......even though they're association with humans would lead many to think they're "acclaimated".

08-14-2007 | 09:37 AM

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Charlie P

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I know of no better way of ruining a great stand than by hunting it when the wind is wrong.
In certain situations...I can see this.

I had the same type question. What situation other the sitting your buddy on the other side of the thicket would this be a good idea?

08-14-2007 | 09:38 AM

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bawanajim

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and in what situations would this be a good idea.

I never said there was one.

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Because I have hunted my woods for fifteen years

And that qualifies you to know the thought processes going through a deer's mind? KUDOS!! Do you know if the 8=pointer bangin the split-eared doe is wishing he was with someone else?

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All I'm saying is you can do anything you want but if you think you will kill a mature buck without knowing how the wind affects his life you are mistaken.

I never said this. The only mature buck I've killed in 2 seasons didn't know I was there for a reason.

Well I sure as hell didn't mean to over step your two years experience.
As I have stated repeatedly hunt as you want>>>>>>>>>>>.
Hunt in pink and use old spice for an attractant.I don't care How you hunt.
What I am sayingisthe wind is a deers best defense if you foil it you win if you don't , well who knows with your remarkable sense of reasoning maybe making loud noises will help you over come their sense of hearing also.

Good luck .Jim

08-14-2007 | 09:41 AM

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Charlie P

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But....you were talking about getting down from a stand in hunting season....crossing a piece of property .....and climbing back up.

You can accomplish this in as little as 20 -40 yards especially if using a climber.

If I'm hunting a trail and the wind changes I could easily move to the other side of trial.

08-14-2007 | 09:44 AM

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GMMAT

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Thats usually what it resorts to with you, Jim.

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What I am sayingisthe wind is a deers best defense

I agree.

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if you foil it you win if you don't , well who knows

ALL I'm saying is you don't know, either way. If you've ever shot a deer that came in from downwind of your stand....you make my case.

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maybe making loud noises will help you over come their sense of hearing also.

How many buck growls, buck roars, cans, grunt tubes, etc.. are sold every year?

08-14-2007 | 09:49 AM

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GMMAT

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You can accomplish this in as little as 20 -40 yards especially if using a climber.

If I'm hunting a trail and the wind changes I could easily move to the other side of trial.

Charlie I know this.....and I hunta climber almost exclusively. I try my darndest to not only play the wind.....but in 46 hunts....I hunted the same tree, only twice, last year. I subscribe to the practice to a certain point......but then I figure I've done all I can do. If the wind shifts ....I ride it out. I know I've killed deer this way, too. My first was killed this way. He was with 20 or more that came from downwind of me.

08-14-2007 | 09:53 AM

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SteveO KanevO

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I shot a deer downwind one time.......[:-]. Seriously though, I have and I believe everybody has shot a deer that traveled to a downwind position or came in from downwind. This is MADNESS!!!.....THIS...IS....SPARTAAAAAAAAA!