I always hear this story...
#41
Giant Nontypical
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Well, one good thing about it. If you don't move when the wind changes, odds are that at least you'll have a nice, relaxing day in the woods and not be bothered at all by those pesky deer.
Tree stands are nice, but there is no way to get out of one quietly. This is one excellent point in favor of ground blinds. You can pick up and move when conditions change, without spooking every deer in the county.
Problem is, you do have to have reasonable amount of skill in the art of stealth because they have yet to put 'quiet' in a spray bottle.

Tree stands are nice, but there is no way to get out of one quietly. This is one excellent point in favor of ground blinds. You can pick up and move when conditions change, without spooking every deer in the county.
Problem is, you do have to have reasonable amount of skill in the art of stealth because they have yet to put 'quiet' in a spray bottle.

#42
Speaking of deer smelling you: How does a deer know the difference between your smell when your in there shed hunting or deer hunting? Or the difference in your smell when your in there planting a food plot or in there hunting over the food plot? or the difference in your smell on a trail when your in there in the off-season scouting and when your in there during the season hunting? Or the difference in your smell when your hanging stands 1-2 months before the season and when your sitting in the stands during the season?
It seems to me that if your in there during the off-season doing all of the things I mentioned then a deer would not necessarily associate your smell with danger. And if you have private land and only bowhunt on it then how does a deer even know it is being hunted? Public land and firearms would certainly clue deer in but on private land that is only bowhunted what tips the deer off that your scent NOW means it is being hunted?
It seems to me that if your in there during the off-season doing all of the things I mentioned then a deer would not necessarily associate your smell with danger. And if you have private land and only bowhunt on it then how does a deer even know it is being hunted? Public land and firearms would certainly clue deer in but on private land that is only bowhunted what tips the deer off that your scent NOW means it is being hunted?
#43
If primary wind direction shifts when in a stand that doesn't accomodate it, yes........I will get down and switch locations.
I'd rather the deer see me walking in a non threatening way while relocating, than have them smell me in a honey hole,
I'd be willing to bet every single person on this board (me included) has been busted by a nose many more times than a deers eyes........maybe a lot of the time you don't even realize it though.
#44
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To a point. They pattern the humans go into a thicket that deer don't normally scent you and see if their reaction is different.
Totally disagree.
Plus consider this deer from urban environments around peoples houses and what not grow accustomed to human scents and fear them less
IMO, when your 15+ foot in the air, wind direction doesn't matter. I highly doubt any deer will bust you that high up.
#45
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
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To a point. They pattern the humans go into a thicket that deer don't normally scent you and see if their reaction is different.
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Plus consider this deer from urban environments around peoples houses and what not grow accustomed to human scents and fear them less
#46
How much extra scent are you leaving in the woods by now making TWO trips into them?
#47
I know of no better way of ruining a great stand than by hunting it when the wind is wrong.
In certain situations...I can see this.
In certain situations...I can see this.
And the damage is not just for a day or two. If a buck winds you he will remember .
HOW can you POSSIBLY know this???
HOW can you POSSIBLY know this???
If you don't know what spooked a deer you are not paying enough attention. A buck will look right at your wind his head will go up neck stretched out and he will turn and bound without hesitation once he has scented you.
OR when he's scented ANYTHING. Or maybe he heard soemthing you didn't.
So you'll go through an area shed hunting......but you won't take a chance to actually HUNT the stand for years???????? Where is the logic, here???? A deer don't know what season it is.....OR whether you're hunting, shed hunting or playing the game boy in the woods....nor does he CARE! You're there....and that's all that matters, to him. If I'm going in there....I figure I might as well hunt it!
OR when he's scented ANYTHING. Or maybe he heard soemthing you didn't.
So you'll go through an area shed hunting......but you won't take a chance to actually HUNT the stand for years???????? Where is the logic, here???? A deer don't know what season it is.....OR whether you're hunting, shed hunting or playing the game boy in the woods....nor does he CARE! You're there....and that's all that matters, to him. If I'm going in there....I figure I might as well hunt it!
All I'm saying is you can do anything you want but if you think you will kill a mature buck without knowing how the wind affects his life you are mistaken.
#48
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Who came up with this notion that deer know whether we're hunting, walking or crocheting? They just know we're there.
I'd rather the deer see me walking in a non threatening way while relocating, than have them smell me in a honey hole,
Perfect example............last year on opening day in NY I hunted the Albany County bow hunting only zone in a little 5 acre patch of property between a housing development and apartment complex. This is a very urban area that is well known for massive bucks because of a lack of gun hunters and pressure. That morning I watched a neighbor walking a dog that passed within 40 yards of bedded deer in some thick cover. I observed the deer watch this guy very intently and not move an inch. Later that same morning they got up and walked by me in a single file, I was hunting off the ground with no blind and got picked off attempting to draw on the lead doe and they hightailed it out of there faster than you can imagine.
#49
If you don't chase them they eventually just walk off having learned once again that a human is not necessarily a threat.

I have noticed they will change their bedding area's but eventually will come back to them
#50
and in what situations would this be a good idea.
Because I have hunted my woods for fifteen years
All I'm saying is you can do anything you want but if you think you will kill a mature buck without knowing how the wind affects his life you are mistaken.


