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wat the hell is deer driving?

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just because you dont like it doesnt mean anything, and its another form of hunting, and hunting is a sport ( an we all agree on that? ) so i consider you wrong, but thats just me, i have been over maybe 5 deer drives, and never killed a deer one a drive..but i still enjoy it and have seen a few deer doing it, if i where you ( i am not you ) i wouldnt just post things negative to stir the pot.. but whatever floats your boat, not a attack on you in anyway, just some thaughts...:eek:

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i think its where u get 10 feet in a tree wait for a deer to walk directly under you.. take your underwear off jump strait down on the deer back pull the underwear though his mouth hold on both sides an the deer take you for a drive???????? i think... i could be wrong! :D

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whered you come up with that?

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You crack me up im laughing so hard I almost spit cofee all over my monitor. But on a serious note, deer drives work. In many areas sitting and waiting just dont cut it. Especially when its mild. i.e. Wisconsin 2006 Gun Deer season was so warm the deer just werent moving. We sat every day untill Thanksgiving as we always do. The it was time to get to work and make a few drives to stir the woods up a bit and get the deer on their feet. We never did see any shooter deer. It was the first year in 40 years we have went buckless on the farm during the gun season. Deer drives work and are a great tool when used correctly and done in a safe matter. Its not lazy as some may think. Its really no different than one or two guys walking around the woods looking for deer to shoot. We usually have 4 drivers and 3-4 headers. There is nothing wrong with deer drives just as there is nothing wrong with baiting within legal limits, they are both great management tools.

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I am definately not a fan of deer driving. As one member said, its like draining the pond to go fishing. And bad news it usually affects other hunters.

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I'm to lazy to do a drive, thats why we throw a pack of dogs in the woods and let them chase em out....

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I'm NOT a fan of forced movement/drives/push whatever else you call it! Thankfully, it's a quickly fading practice in most areas. However, the practice was common in my region for many, many years. It was pretty much the standard to sit the first morning and evening of opening day and then "drive"/"push" the remainder of the season. Nothing like seeing a deer pushed out of the last piece of brush it could hide in and then having 10 guys all empty their guns as the animal tried making a break across a wide open field. Just no sense in it these days. :(

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It's bad enough to allow women to drive, what is this world coming to. I am walking!

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Here's my take on it. First off, I get tired of people saying something is not a sport or not sporting simply because they don'tparticularly hunt that way. To me, if it's legal then go for it. If I don't particularly care to do it then fine but I'm not gonna act like I'm better and say your methods of hunting aren't a sport simply because I don't do it. I can find countless guys who can set up and execute a good drive and hunt circles around those people who say that they aren't sportsman. Lonewolf, for you to say there isn't sport in it is rediculous.It's clearly evident that you have either a) neverbeen involved in a deer drive in your entire life or b) have been involved in a drive that consisted of three people who barely know what a tree looks like running through the woods yellingat each other. A REAL deer drive usually requires a vast knowledge of the terrain as well as the local deer population. You have to know where deer are bedded, where they feed, how they travel and where to place the other hunters so that they are in the correct position in relation to these other factors.

Based on your statement a guy who hunts the same stump for the past ten years simply because he's to over weight to make it any further from his car is more sporting than the hunter who has hunted the same mountains for fourty years, knows every stick and twig like the back of his hand, taken a deer every year for the last 25 years, could propabaly tell you every bedding area and trail on this land and uses this knowledge to put on a well executed successful drive.

Last time I checked the only REAL weapon we are all born with is our brain. If you want to use it to study the area and find a well placed area for a tree stand then that's great. I do it every year all archery season long. Now, if I want to take knowledge of my hunting land handed down from generation to generation to put on a drive come rifle season then who are you to say it isn't sporting.

We are all hunters who need to support each other no matter how we choose to do it (legally). We have enough trouble with groups like peta attacking us that I never understood the need for some hunters to put themselves above others simply because they don't agree with their methods.

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i dont like driving throughout the season because it runs the deer outa ur area..
but on the last day of gun season is the only time its acceptable;)

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As long as they pass a driving proficiency test, have good eyesight, and insurance I don't see why we shouldn't let them drive.


On a serious note; I usually don't do drives except on property where I don't hunt often (throw-away spots)or in areas where conventional hunting methods aren't realistic (ie a small island of trees in a crop field). One place I like to push is a friend's property that has a lot of wooded ditches extending out into crops. We set up at the base finger of woods, where it joins a large forest and push from the point of the "finger" into the woods. This is usually a mid-day hunt and then we go do our stand hunts elsewhere in the afternoon.

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I don't mind them driving so long as they don't drink beforehand.:D

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I don't know many people that do drives during archery season, usually a shotgun thing, sometimes rifle. Probably the best scenario for buckshot in my opinion. Since most on here don't like gun hunting to begin with, they certainly won't like deer drives. Or did you mean to put this in the Deer Hunting section?

I personally wouldn't want to do one, and I do gun hunt. But just because I don't want to do it doesn't mean it doesn't work or it shouldn't be done. If your ultimate goal is the harvesting of deer teamwork can't hurt. I guess it would really depend on the deer numbers and pressure in your area.

I wouldn't want to do one where I live, just too many people out with guns during shotgun season. Sounds a bit dangerous in my neck of the woods. I think people do them though.

And another thing to consider, if it is your land, who am I to tell you what to do with it. If you want to do a deer drive, do one. Now on public land I don't think it would be such a good idea around here.

Paul

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Well said Paul and I agree 100%. We ONLY do drives during rifle season and it's always done at our hunting camp. We are located in the middle of thousands of acres on the tiadaghton state forrest. It's open to the public but the mountains behind our cabin never have hunters on them because it's almost impossible to get to so there is no interference with anyone else. I also agree that driving on public land through other hunters is probably not the way to go. However, this is an issue of hunting ethics rather than "sport".

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ok guys I want all you guys to come to CAPE COD and try to hunt deer with a gun and see if you kill anythingwithout driving deer......... We have 1 week of shotgun and u know what the deer live in.... scrub oak over your head sometimes wrapped in briars..... they have no reason to leave the srcub oak,it produces acorns and talk about cover you wouldnt be able to see a deer 3 feet infront of you if it didnt move. We dont have nice fields where you can set up in between the feeding and bedding are and there is no where, where its ust bedding cover the whole cape is bedding and feeding area. If you live in iowa or IL than i understand where your coming from bc you CAN hunt deer where they move to feed but here it just aint likethat so leave deeer drving alone in the EAST

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Deer drives are not my cup of tea but to each there own. The one concern that I have is safety.My first year hunting,my father and I droveup to and my dad assisted with a kid who was my age that hadbeen shot by another hunter while doing a drive. You can say that the guy was an idiot all you want but it does happen. So as far a traditional drive goes it isn't for me. However I have "pushed" deer out of creek bottoms during both rifle and bow. Very effective way of getting deer to move. A nice slow walk and stalk.

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That was funny!

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We will do deer drives when the hunting is really slow or it is muzzeloader season (around christmas)

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I have heard and read about guys doing them while bow hunting. The key from everything I've read is slow and easy. That is, it's almost like two or more guys starting at opposite ends of a property and slowly working toward one another toward the course of a day still hunting. Or one guy is one stand and the other still hunts toward him. Most accounts I've read suggest doing this toward the very end of season when the motivation to move is non-existant.

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I haven't even been on HNI long and what's that word, oh yeah,
"Deja Vu." There is a long post on this about a month or two ago.

The question (obnoxious statement) wasn't really in good faith.

Deer drives have a time and place, and it is still a "sport." It's certainly not a sure thing and it can be a lot of hard work and requires careful planning, and if successful a bit of excitement. I usually only participate in one (if that) a year late in the season in areas I don't plan on hunting anymore. It's a good tool to have in the hunting arsenal.

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I started this in bowhunting thinking ppl here would understand were im coming from, i c i was wrong . stop for a sec and think what that word means. a sporting chance. Theres no chance when the game is surrounded and that takes away the sport. [ I agree it is needed in some cases]

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lone wolf,

I am about 100% sure you have never participated in a deer drive with guns, much less with bows, or you wouldn't be saying that. If anything, using a bow is much more "sporting" than shotguns (the latter of which never involves "completely surrounding" a deer. Are you picturing about 100 people tightening a circle or something? Even in that instance, due to the danger of shooting other people, the game isn't truly "surrounded." It's not like you corral the deer. They are smart, they circle back, wait for you to pass and go out the back door, sometimes you don't scare them and walk by 10' away, Sometimes they run too fast or often take paths that hunters are not posted on. I just don't think you know what you are talking about.

I also think with a bow due to brush and fast moving deer that you often would not get a good(ethical) shot to take on a deer, shots that might be made with a shotgun.

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I hear of a lot of accidents from deer drives also.

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Accidents are a much more legitimate reason to not like drive, instead of the not realistic statement that "There's no chance when the game is surrounded and that takes away the sport."

I know of a bad injury from drives, and I really don't participate in many anymore (1 in last 2 years). You have to plan well (proper spacing, direction and communication), and do it with people you trust.

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The thing that I dont like about driving deer isalot of peopledont think about who they might shoot (if done wrong). I hunt in Wis and alotof these guys scare me.

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I simply don't get some of you people. No wonder we are our own worst enemies when it comes to loosing our hunting rights and heritages.

Native Americans used deer drives to perfection to take wildlife. They even used fire to push animals in the needed directioin and we whine that drives are not sporting? ? ?

We've successfully "pushed" deer in archery seasons to tag does. Done correctly the deer will walk by naturally and even stop. Not sporting ? HA! It's harder and more sporting than taking one out of a tree...

Now I know most are complaining about the orange army yelling and screaming and chasing the deer through watchers running for their lives, to me, that's done improperly. Deer "pushes" can be very productive and exciting when done correctly.

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I wonder if the fact some of "your" deer get shot on drives is the real issue here:)

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please try to keep your underwear on while up a tree you may get a rash

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YEA, Ihate deer driving,had one almost wreck me the other morning.GEEZ you guys need to lighting up a bit! We are part of the same famiy u know! I did think that was funny as hell about the underwear.

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Quite common in my neck of the woods (Eastern Shore, MD), usually done the last day of shotgun season. Good for doe management. If done properly with seasoned hunters it is quite safe. I particiated in one last year, probably my last, did not particularly like it.

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Ok accidents are going to happen in the hunting world.... if you use common sence and look where your shooting youll be fine.

And to lonewolf HAHHAHAH you havnet been deer hunting long thats for sure. The deer def have a chance and i wish i had a dollar for every deer that squirted out the side, that got back threw the line bc they layed down or the deer that just quitely snuck by a stander....id be a billionare!!

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Ok ppl this is making me laugh, what kind of idiot thinks i was talking about
about driving deer with a bow, any one knows that wont work, I place this
forum in bowhunter because I thought id find some real sportsman who would understand were im coming from. Once again I agree deer driving is needed in some cases, but its for other reasons but a sport. Also there are
diifrent ways to drive, the way i meant i dont like is when u have about 12
guys surrounding a woods or field and think it is a sport. U want to do it
for managment, thats fine with me,but not sport.

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How can ppl misunderstand things so badly, i wasnt talking about
driving deer with a bow but a gun. around here theres been times when
at least a doz hunters surrounded a woods . I agree this is needed in some cases . but not for sport. The reason i put this forum in bowhunter is because I thought id find some ppl who would understand.
{BUT TO MANY PPL IN THIS WORLD BITE BACK BEFORE THEY ASK ?}

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For food and managment its fine but if u r hunting just for sport its not

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Im not talking about accidents just the diifrence between driving deer for
management or sport. I just wish ppl wouldnt misunderstand thinks so badly
they bite back before they as ?

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I could be wrong, but wasn't the Hanson buck taken on a deer drive?

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could be gutshot, im just against driving cause a deer wouldnt be a trophy to me that way.