What do you consider a good group?
06-25-2007 | 10:28 AM
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RE: What do you consider a good group?
ORIGINAL: huntingson
Greg, that is only good enough for elk if you are alright with hitting just anywhere on the heart. I myself like to be able to pick the ventricle I am going to split at 50 yards
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO
Never thought of a formula like that, but I think that's pretty sound for most people. For hunting purposes, I'm pretty happy with 2" groups at 20 yards, 3" at 30 and 4" at 40. I recently mentioned on another post that I'm turnng in softball-sized groups at 50, which I said is probably not world-class, but I think it'll be good enough for my upcoming elk hunt. So ... all in all, I think Ed's right on.
Never thought of a formula like that, but I think that's pretty sound for most people. For hunting purposes, I'm pretty happy with 2" groups at 20 yards, 3" at 30 and 4" at 40. I recently mentioned on another post that I'm turnng in softball-sized groups at 50, which I said is probably not world-class, but I think it'll be good enough for my upcoming elk hunt. So ... all in all, I think Ed's right on.
06-25-2007 | 02:10 PM
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From: Blissfield MI USA
RE: What do you consider a good group?
Depends on your experience, the time you have to practice and if you get any sort of instruction. It also depends on what you want to do in my opinion.
You don't need to have target archer skills in order to hunt if you know your limits. It certainly doesn't hurt though.
3 inch groups for a new archer with hunting as the goal is plenty good in my eyes. As long as you can do it consistently with your hunting gear on. Now if you plan on shooting spots you might want to set your goals a bit higher.
3-4 inches at 20-30 yards is perfectly lethal if you place your shots well ( knowing where to put them).
I know guys that don't really shoot better than that, if that well and they don't have any trouble taking game year after year. The key is they can do it consistently and are very good hunters. They know their game, know how to stay calm and know where to put the arrow. They also have confidence that their equipment will get the job done.
On the other hand I have a buddy that is awesome on the 3-D range and at shooting spots. This guy is like human range finder and his arrows usually hit the mark. In the 5 or 6 years I have known him he has only killed one deer to my knowledge. He is great marksman, but a piss poor hunter.
I'm not telling you to quit now, or that you shouldn't strive to be better. Many people get good enough at 20 yards that they are afraid to group arrows at 20 yards for fear of damaging them. However 3 inch groups for a new archer is nothing to be ashamed of. Some days that's all I can pull off if I don't have my head together.
Paul
You don't need to have target archer skills in order to hunt if you know your limits. It certainly doesn't hurt though.
3 inch groups for a new archer with hunting as the goal is plenty good in my eyes. As long as you can do it consistently with your hunting gear on. Now if you plan on shooting spots you might want to set your goals a bit higher.
3-4 inches at 20-30 yards is perfectly lethal if you place your shots well ( knowing where to put them).
I know guys that don't really shoot better than that, if that well and they don't have any trouble taking game year after year. The key is they can do it consistently and are very good hunters. They know their game, know how to stay calm and know where to put the arrow. They also have confidence that their equipment will get the job done.
On the other hand I have a buddy that is awesome on the 3-D range and at shooting spots. This guy is like human range finder and his arrows usually hit the mark. In the 5 or 6 years I have known him he has only killed one deer to my knowledge. He is great marksman, but a piss poor hunter.
I'm not telling you to quit now, or that you shouldn't strive to be better. Many people get good enough at 20 yards that they are afraid to group arrows at 20 yards for fear of damaging them. However 3 inch groups for a new archer is nothing to be ashamed of. Some days that's all I can pull off if I don't have my head together.
Paul
06-25-2007 | 02:49 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Mont County, Pa
RE: What do you consider a good group?
I'm happy with thisgroup that I shot an hour agoat 25yrds, sure glad I got a Bitz.
The diff entryanglesare from target shift on impact.I think it's fine for hunting.
The diff entryanglesare from target shift on impact.I think it's fine for hunting.
06-25-2007 | 03:00 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: What do you consider a good group?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Oh....I see, now.
I shot this "group" last Fall off my patio......with BH's, at 20 yds.
Oh....I see, now.
I shot this "group" last Fall off my patio......with BH's, at 20 yds.
I agree with paul 100%
