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C is for cookie - HCA Iron Mace Review **UPDATE 6/24** 368 fps

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Old 06-21-2007 | 06:27 PM
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congrats on your new companion. I to remember when HC was the creme of the crop (were getting old quicksilver) Any way that is a great looking setup, the green strings go with the coockie monster theme. you need a cookie monster sticker on there and some arrow wraps with cookie monster on them.
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Old 06-21-2007 | 06:44 PM
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Very nice bow, I used to have the High Country Excaliber man that thing was fast....

Well you might have the SECOND fastest bow on this sight.
You're right....his IM is almost as fast as mine. But, he hasn't got her all tuned up yet....I guess your X-Farce is a not to distant third. If I turned the IM down to 62 pounds and shortened my draw a half inch...I'd be shooting about 325 too...
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Old 06-21-2007 | 07:25 PM
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That is one sweet bow quicksilver! With my high school student budget I may have to look into that bow. Keep us posted!!!
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Old 06-21-2007 | 07:27 PM
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Sorry, last post was supposed to be mine, younggun22 is my brother. Anyway, we both think it is a bute!
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Old 06-21-2007 | 07:40 PM
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Congrats on the new High Country....I almost got another High Country but the Drenalin was easy to get and I'm happy with it so that's the choice I made. I still have my Brute Force and won't trade or sell it for the world....hope you have many a memory with the Iron Mace.
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Old 06-21-2007 | 09:49 PM
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PLEASE!I don't even have 75 arrows out of the fastest bow on this site!
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Old 06-21-2007 | 10:22 PM
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Nice report. I'm a fan of HCA and shot for them for 7 years. I still own 4 of them a Force, a Discovery (spot bow), a Max-Force (hatchet cam and main hunting bow) and a Max-Force solo cam (3-d and backup hunting bow). I've been kicking around getting a new bow for the last year but I usually find something that I don't like about the ones I've tried. So I've stayed with the ones I liked. Can you tell me the length of the riser? I prefer long risers without too much reflex for stability. If this bow was something I liked, I'd tone down the speed to around 275ish by shooting heavier arrows. I like this speed for fixed blade broadheads, plus I'd get super penitration. TIA
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Old 06-21-2007 | 11:43 PM
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The bow I shoot is a HCA Four-runner. I basically got an HCA because Dad shot one for years and loved his. I've shot next to the Bowtechs and Mathews of my buddies and I'll probably buy another High Country later on, because for the price you can't beat it. Mine is fast and quiet and light. I love it.
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Old 06-22-2007 | 07:30 AM
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Greg - I'll take those measurements for you tonight. The Mace is basically all riser, and it's pretty stout, built to basically withstand repetitive dryfiring (3 gpp arrows).

The riser itself is 6061-T6 Billet Aluminum - which an aluminum alloy, with magnesium and silicon as the alloying elements. It has generally good mechanical properties and is heat treatable and weldable. Ithas the highest tensile and yield strength of any aluminum in the 6061 family (tensile strength of 42,000 psi (290 MPa) and yield strength of at least 35,000 psi (241 MPa)). Commonly used for aircraft parts/boats/bike/auto parts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6061_aluminum

I do know that Bowtech Ross and Rytera use the 6061 billetfor their risers. Hoytuses mostly 6061, but also uses somecast aluminum on certain models, which is more brittle.

Here's alist of pointsoutlining the different aluminum alloys to check out.

[ul][*]1000 series are essenitally pure aluminium with a minimum 99% aluminium content by weight and can be work hardened[*]2000 series are alloyed with copper, can be precipitation hardened to strengths comparable to steel. Formerly referred to as duralumin, they were once the most common aerospace alloys, but were susceptible to stress corrosion cracking and are increasingly replaced by 7000 series in new designs. [*]3000 series are alloyed with manganese, and can be work hardened [*]4000 series are alloyed with silicon. They are also known as silumin[*]5000 series are alloyed with magnesium, derive most of their strength from solution hardening, and can also be work hardened to strengths comparable to steel[*]6000 series are alloyed with magnesium and silicon, are easy to machine, and can be precipitation hardened, but not to the high strengths that 2000 and 7000 can reach. [*]7000 series are alloyed with zinc, and can be precipitation hardened to the highest strengths of any aluminium alloy. [*]8000 series are a miscellaneous category[/ul]
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So, after looking at this basic outline, it looks like a 7000 series aluminum-zinc alloy is the head of the class, but for some reason (probably cost or machinability) nobody uses it. The 2000 series is harder, but develops stress cracks, which is no good for a bow riser. Knock out those two, and that leaves the 6000 series as your best available aluminum material to build a bow...and the 6061-T6 is the highest grade 6000 series available.

With the limbs they're putting on this thing, and the quality of the riser/string, there's no reason you should ever have any trouble with it. By the way, when I bought my last bow, I came really close to buying the Max Force - the shop owner just gave me a better deal on the jennings.

It takes 10 minutes to learn to shoot a bow, and you could never learn everything about archery in2 lifetimes. Crazy...

Froman - 2 of my uncles hunt with 4runners - one carbon and one aluminum. Great hunting bows.
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Old 06-22-2007 | 03:58 PM
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That is a great looking bow. I may have to check one out for myself. By the way have you noticed any vane clearance issues. I have heard of some problems with vane clearance if your not using the HCA arrows. Did you notice anything?
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