How many guys....
#31
Nontypical Buck
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RE: How many guys....
I can't speak for everyone, only me I guess. But I'd have to say in my hunting areas, there are too many hunters that simply shoot anything, which results in less mature bucks. Does that mean that they're not there; No. Harder to get one; sure. But, one of my first goals is to pass on the smaller ones, so, by passing on them, I have achieved one of my goals. Does that mean I've failed, yeah I guess so if the season closes and I don't get a big boy...
However, I get a sense of accomplishment by being selective, but that is just me.
However, I get a sense of accomplishment by being selective, but that is just me.
#32
RE: How many guys....
Great thread, I think this excuse falls into 2 categories.
The guys who rarely if ever, kill anything, so they just say they were waiting on the big one, so their excuse is pretty much BS.
the guys who legitimately wait on big bucks and for whatever reason don’t get an opportunity at one that meets their requirements. This is legit and whether they say it as “they didn’t place themselves in the right position” or as “one didn’t show up that I wanted to shoot” is just being nitpicky. [/ol]
However, I feel that if you did not get one due to missing, blowing a shot, or having one close that didn’t work out, just state how it went down. No biggie, its not an “excuse” so much as its just the way it happened
The guys who rarely if ever, kill anything, so they just say they were waiting on the big one, so their excuse is pretty much BS.
the guys who legitimately wait on big bucks and for whatever reason don’t get an opportunity at one that meets their requirements. This is legit and whether they say it as “they didn’t place themselves in the right position” or as “one didn’t show up that I wanted to shoot” is just being nitpicky. [/ol]
However, I feel that if you did not get one due to missing, blowing a shot, or having one close that didn’t work out, just state how it went down. No biggie, its not an “excuse” so much as its just the way it happened
#33
RE: How many guys....
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr
How many guys that you know use the excuse "I didn't shoot onethis year because I pass everything under XXX inches"? That seems more like a cop out orexcuse to me more than anything.
What I am saying isif we don't shoot a buck it is because we didn't put ourselves in position to make it happen, no matter the size of buck you are after......or did not execute when the moment arrived...... plain and simple.
Am I crazy for thinking this when I hear people say that line?
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How many guys that you know use the excuse "I didn't shoot onethis year because I pass everything under XXX inches"? That seems more like a cop out orexcuse to me more than anything.
What I am saying isif we don't shoot a buck it is because we didn't put ourselves in position to make it happen, no matter the size of buck you are after......or did not execute when the moment arrived...... plain and simple.
Am I crazy for thinking this when I hear people say that line?
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#34
RE: How many guys....
I think that anytime you're dealing with hunting, there are three very distinct camps of guys:
The first group (A)are the guys who hunt like maniacs, logging MAD hours in the stand, hunting away every possible second of spare time they get - rain, sleet, snow or shine. These guys will fill their tags (or at least have plenty of opportunities to do so). When I hear one of these guys say "I ate tag soup because I didn't see any deer worth shooting,"I know they're telling the truth. From my experience, I'd say (around here at least) - Group A comprises maybe 3-5% of the hunting licenses sold.
The second group (B) are the weekend warriors. One day every weekend or two, when the weather is nice, they're out there. These guys have all the gear, but just don't have the obsession. They like to feel like the great white hunters, and they're chock-full of excuses. These are your "passed up 30 bucks in one day" guys. John Rambo, Ted Nugent wanna-bees,they pretend like they're hunting on Buckmasters or something. 30-50% of the hunting population, if I was guessing. These guys always have a big plan, and that plan usually falls flat on its face.
Group (C) are the pretend hunters. They drive trucks covered in big buck stickers, turkey track stickers, hunting stickers, strutting toms, etc... They hunt the opening day of opening day of gun season and the first Saturday. Somebody flushes out a deer and it runs in front of them, they blast it, and they're god's gift to deer season from that point on. These are the guys who hunt 1, 2, maybe 3 days a year, but talk game year round. They're the guys who say "Been out lately?" and you say "yeah, bowhunted all day yesterday in a drowning rain" and they look at you like you're crazy - coming back with some idiotic comment like "deer don't move in the rain, I won't even waste my time." "I went on a poker run on my quad - screw huntin' in the rain - that sucks." This demographic makes up the remainder of the pie.
The first group (A)are the guys who hunt like maniacs, logging MAD hours in the stand, hunting away every possible second of spare time they get - rain, sleet, snow or shine. These guys will fill their tags (or at least have plenty of opportunities to do so). When I hear one of these guys say "I ate tag soup because I didn't see any deer worth shooting,"I know they're telling the truth. From my experience, I'd say (around here at least) - Group A comprises maybe 3-5% of the hunting licenses sold.
The second group (B) are the weekend warriors. One day every weekend or two, when the weather is nice, they're out there. These guys have all the gear, but just don't have the obsession. They like to feel like the great white hunters, and they're chock-full of excuses. These are your "passed up 30 bucks in one day" guys. John Rambo, Ted Nugent wanna-bees,they pretend like they're hunting on Buckmasters or something. 30-50% of the hunting population, if I was guessing. These guys always have a big plan, and that plan usually falls flat on its face.
Group (C) are the pretend hunters. They drive trucks covered in big buck stickers, turkey track stickers, hunting stickers, strutting toms, etc... They hunt the opening day of opening day of gun season and the first Saturday. Somebody flushes out a deer and it runs in front of them, they blast it, and they're god's gift to deer season from that point on. These are the guys who hunt 1, 2, maybe 3 days a year, but talk game year round. They're the guys who say "Been out lately?" and you say "yeah, bowhunted all day yesterday in a drowning rain" and they look at you like you're crazy - coming back with some idiotic comment like "deer don't move in the rain, I won't even waste my time." "I went on a poker run on my quad - screw huntin' in the rain - that sucks." This demographic makes up the remainder of the pie.
#35
RE: How many guys....
ORIGINAL: kshunter
I hear that one every once in a while. Since we are on the subject,here are a couple others I hear alot:
"It jumped my string" - Most likely your shot wasn't on target.
"I'd neverspendmuch money on containing my scent"& "The Wind Swirled all the sudden" - I seem to hear those 2 statements in the same story a lot!
Of course there are many times where it's true, butin my experience, way overused as an excuse...
I hear that one every once in a while. Since we are on the subject,here are a couple others I hear alot:
"It jumped my string" - Most likely your shot wasn't on target.
"I'd neverspendmuch money on containing my scent"& "The Wind Swirled all the sudden" - I seem to hear those 2 statements in the same story a lot!
Of course there are many times where it's true, butin my experience, way overused as an excuse...
heard that one two many times
#37
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2007
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RE: How many guys....
quiksilver,
You sure left a lot of room between Group A and Group B. I don't fit Group A, but it is really largely a matter of work, family and distance to my hunting spots. I can't be that obsessed right now although I want to be.
But I don't fit Group B. I try to hunt when I can no matter what the weather, post-rut, or deer sightings are indicating. I don't make a lot of excuses (I used to do that more due to youth). I don't go just to hang out at the camp and drink all night. I get up early and have more and more been moving to hunting the whole day. I work on food plots, clearing lanes, putting up stands, scouting, etc. (again, with some of my only free time). Last year I had a 12 or 13 year old bow. I've slowly worked on getting better gear to increase my success.
In other words, I used to be in Group B, but I'd like to think I'm moving towards Group A.
Since it is related to this thread, I had a day last year where I saw 4 nice, non-shooter bucks (one was a 3.5 yr. borderline shooter), I totally loved the experience. I watched them chase a doe, run each other off, lick branches, etc. So of course I told people about that b/c it was cool, but I wasn't making excuses or hanging my head. I made a gamble that an even bigger buck might appear and it didn't pay off. I don't regret that. I will be hunting that same area this year at that time.
You sure left a lot of room between Group A and Group B. I don't fit Group A, but it is really largely a matter of work, family and distance to my hunting spots. I can't be that obsessed right now although I want to be.
But I don't fit Group B. I try to hunt when I can no matter what the weather, post-rut, or deer sightings are indicating. I don't make a lot of excuses (I used to do that more due to youth). I don't go just to hang out at the camp and drink all night. I get up early and have more and more been moving to hunting the whole day. I work on food plots, clearing lanes, putting up stands, scouting, etc. (again, with some of my only free time). Last year I had a 12 or 13 year old bow. I've slowly worked on getting better gear to increase my success.
In other words, I used to be in Group B, but I'd like to think I'm moving towards Group A.
Since it is related to this thread, I had a day last year where I saw 4 nice, non-shooter bucks (one was a 3.5 yr. borderline shooter), I totally loved the experience. I watched them chase a doe, run each other off, lick branches, etc. So of course I told people about that b/c it was cool, but I wasn't making excuses or hanging my head. I made a gamble that an even bigger buck might appear and it didn't pay off. I don't regret that. I will be hunting that same area this year at that time.
#38
RE: How many guys....
Jeff, you defy all logic and demographical boundaries. There's no way to quantify the GMMAT phenomenon - it's like the Northern Lights or Stonehenge.
I guess I should qualify my group A, B, C classifications - being as P.C. as I can be - let's just say that Pennsylvania has a "unique" set of circumstances, and hunting around here is quite different than what a lot of y'all are accustomed to.
I guess I should qualify my group A, B, C classifications - being as P.C. as I can be - let's just say that Pennsylvania has a "unique" set of circumstances, and hunting around here is quite different than what a lot of y'all are accustomed to.
#39
RE: How many guys....
I guess I should qualify my group A, B, C classifications - being as P.C. as I can be - let's just say that Pennsylvania has a "unique" set of circumstances, and hunting around here is quite different than what a lot of y'all are accustomed to.