Would you knowingly break the law?
05-16-2007, 08:32 AM
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Dominant Buck
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Would you knowingly break the law?
Scenario is.....you have theCHOICE of whether or not to hunt a particular parcel. You know, in advance, that the adjacent landowners have the right to DENY you entrance to their property to retrieve downed game (your state's law).
Would you (Simple yes or no) KNOWINGLY break the law to retrieve a deer?
Would you (Simple yes or no) KNOWINGLY break the law to retrieve a deer?
05-16-2007, 08:38 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
If they haven't explicitly denied you and their land is NOT posted then it would be my take that you are NOT breaking the law.
If the land were posted then I would break the law to retrieve the animal. If caught, then I would have to suffer the consequences, but I would not deny what I did.
EDIT: waaay to many unknown variables for as simple yes/no.
If the land were posted then I would break the law to retrieve the animal. If caught, then I would have to suffer the consequences, but I would not deny what I did.
EDIT: waaay to many unknown variables for as simple yes/no.
05-16-2007, 08:38 AM
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
I am fortunate where most of the neighboring landowners wouldn't care and would likely want the deer off their property.
That said, yes, I'd retrieve the deer and pay the fine if necessary. But I would try not to put myself into a situation where that could possibly happen in the first place. Meaning, I'd try to hunt at least a 200 yards from a "strange" property line.
That said, yes, I'd retrieve the deer and pay the fine if necessary. But I would try not to put myself into a situation where that could possibly happen in the first place. Meaning, I'd try to hunt at least a 200 yards from a "strange" property line.
05-16-2007, 08:39 AM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
No, we always make contact with the landowner before crossing on and retrieving the deer. We had to do this a few years back when my father shot a 150" 10 pointer and it jumped the fence.The landowner would not allow us to take our guns with us, but we could try and find the deer, and thankfully we did, and he was expired.
05-16-2007, 08:40 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
No
In America it is private property rights that are the biases for the rest of our freedoms.
Your right to hunt in no way supersedes the land owners rights to deny you entry.
In America it is private property rights that are the biases for the rest of our freedoms.
Your right to hunt in no way supersedes the land owners rights to deny you entry.
05-16-2007, 08:43 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
Just don't read anything into the scenario I depicted. It's the only choices you have.
For the scenario's sake, though.....permission has already been denied, UP-FRONT.
For the scenario's sake, though.....permission has already been denied, UP-FRONT.
05-16-2007, 08:49 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
I have to agree with chucker34. I'd try not to put myself in that position. Fortunately, everywhere I'm lined up to hunt I don't have that problem. If I think it's important to know the adjacent land-owners stance before the hunt. If he refused to let me access his land to track a deer, then I'd put some distance between myself and his property line.
That being said, I'd answer your question with a "maybe". If I tracked a deer to the property line and saw it lying 20 yards on the other side???? I'm probably crossing the line. Sorry.[&o]
GMMAT,
What would you do?
(Had to edit that. I'm not sure what I'd do in that instance, but it would beextremely difficultto leave a buck lying 10-20 yards away because someone doesn't want my footprints on his ground.)
That being said, I'd answer your question with a "maybe". If I tracked a deer to the property line and saw it lying 20 yards on the other side???? I'm probably crossing the line. Sorry.[&o]
GMMAT,
What would you do?
(Had to edit that. I'm not sure what I'd do in that instance, but it would beextremely difficultto leave a buck lying 10-20 yards away because someone doesn't want my footprints on his ground.)
05-16-2007, 08:50 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
For the scenario's sake, though.....permission has already been denied, UP-FRONT.
For the scenario's sake, though.....permission has already been denied, UP-FRONT.
05-16-2007, 08:52 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Would you knowingly break the law?
All I know is, to pursue legal action, the landowner would have to catch me, which I can assure you, will never happen.
If I hunt all year toshoot a deer, and he's down, and I know where he's at, heWILL be going home with me, without question. There is no fence, posted line, river or lake that will stop me. If that means leaving for a while and coming back later in the dark or at a better time, then it is what it is.
But, with that said, there's nowhere that I hunt where the neighbors wouldn't let me go get my deer. I don't have much, but I do have people skills.
If I hunt all year toshoot a deer, and he's down, and I know where he's at, heWILL be going home with me, without question. There is no fence, posted line, river or lake that will stop me. If that means leaving for a while and coming back later in the dark or at a better time, then it is what it is.
But, with that said, there's nowhere that I hunt where the neighbors wouldn't let me go get my deer. I don't have much, but I do have people skills.